wtf?

**Katman** · 14th January 2008, 19:42

Where has the "Accidents - Cause and Effect" thread gone? One of the most positive and heartening responses to a death of a motorcyclist seems to have disappeared.

**Ixion** · 14th January 2008, 19:48

Always happens. By no means the first time.

The site ethos is resolutely opposed to anything that reminds people that crashing can kill you.

Such threads make people , including the Heaven Born too uncomfortabel.

A simple RIP thread, that's OK, because folk can just think "Oh, how terrible, glad that'll never happen to me"

But discussion of what causes people to die strikes to close to home. Makes folk think "but, but, but , *I* do that. Shit that means that *I* could die". Which is an unthinkable thought, and causes lots of people to demand that the offending thread be closed down. They "don't want to have to see that sort of stuff".

Every time there's a fatal crash it happens. None so blind as they who will not see.

**kneescraper** · 14th January 2008, 19:49

The Mods prob thought it was best to remove it...dont know why..thats just what they do...fuck knows?

Waiting for Ixon to starting dissing them (please please)

**Cajun** · 14th January 2008, 19:49

it was moved due to against the site Rules
according to this rules in this thread http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...30&postcount=1

espially even more so since the family has posted, and said the information given at the start of the post, is total against what they have been told.

**kneescraper** · 14th January 2008, 19:50

FUCK, THE PRICK BET ME TO IT.

You rock dude, your my idol...in being serious btw.

**Katman** · 14th January 2008, 19:53

Originally Posted by Cajun

it was moved due to against the site Rules
according to this rules in this thread http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...30&postcount=1

espially even more so since the family has posted, and said the information given at the start of the post, is total against what they have been told.

Load of shit. That thread far transcended the death that occured yesterday.

**Swoop** · 14th January 2008, 19:58

Hmm. Totally deleted.
Like another recent thread that made it to PD, then vanished.

Bad bikers! Baaaad.

**Katman** · 14th January 2008, 20:00

Originally Posted by Cajun

it was moved due to against the site Rules
according to this rules in this thread http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...30&postcount=1

espially even more so since the family has posted, and said the information given at the start of the post, is total against what they have been told.

If that's really the case, why not just remove the couple of posts that refered directly to yesterdays accident. The rest of the thread was one of the most pertinent and useful threads I've read on this site so far.

**JimO** · 14th January 2008, 20:02

you out of the sinbin then kat

man

**Ixion** · 14th January 2008, 20:03

Originally Posted by Ixion

Nonsense. There is nothing at all wrong with saying to someone "I notice you have a habit of X. It's a rather bad habit, because Y. Maybe you don't realise you are doing it, it is an easy thing to get into the habit of. I know I do it myself , and it's something I am working on to correct".

Not that I do, cos I can't be arsed anymore trying to stop people killing themselves . I realised a while ago that KB is Ostrich Central and that all people want to do is stick their heads in the sand. Every crash is "just one of those things"; "shit happens" ; just a silly mistake"; "it was the other guy's fault".

The original comment pertained specifically to the behaviour on the ride, so it can't be off topic. Someone else posted that they enjoyed following rider X, whose lines were very smooth. Was that off topic also ?

The reason for the complaints is not that the post was off topic. It's because people become angry when anyone suggests taking their heads out of the sand.

There'll be more funeral threads here before the season's done. .

Didn't take long for the prediction to come to pass, alas. It won't be the last this season.

Maybe the Heaven Born should make dying against the rulez. Then we could all live for ever.

**Nagash** · 14th January 2008, 20:11

I was a bit miffed when I saw that it had been swept under the rug. I'm also one who tends to ride pretty quick around the residential areas (not that quick though) but definately not anymore.

I don't see what was offensive about pointing out and discussing and learning from the mistakes of other riders. Especially something as major as a death.

Poor sportsmanship in my view..

**White trash** · 14th January 2008, 20:17

If the family asked it be removed, how about we respect that? This tradgedy only occured a couple of days ago.

**Swoop** · 14th January 2008, 20:18

Hmm.
A quick check of the members list and Oarbreaker no longer exists.

EDIT: Spellded it rong... dummy!

**Toaster** · 14th January 2008, 20:18

Guys, you might want to read the rules as linked via Cajun's post.

It's not some conspiracy by Moderators - the rules are quite reasonable given the sensitive nature of the topic it relates to.