Sporty Cruisers...noob question?

[johnnyflash]

good point, though even though some cruisers may not have forward control, the pegs on most are placed so the leg is more than 90 degree rather than the much further back sporty that sits closer to 45 degree. I suppose as someone earlier pointed out with a wiki definition, its the fact that cruisers tend to sit in a less cramped position, straightish back, legs not bent hard back.. :-)

[Hitcher]

Defining genres of bikes has become increasingly difficult as established conventions disappear. This discussion has proven that for crusiers.

Scroters are similar, particularly looking at some of the concept bikes with CVT. Some people believe that a bike with a frame-mounted engine isn't a scroter, immediately eliminating the Burgman, Majesty, Silverwing and many more.

And what's the difference between an FRJ1300, Blackbird and a Bandit? Are they the same "class" of bike?

And what about those wonderful odd-balls like the B-King or V-Max?

At the end of the day it's a bit like arguing that The Eagles are a country band. Or that Norah Jones is a jazz singer. You say tomayto, I say tomarto.

[MVnut]

Are there any sporty cruisers, sounds stupid, kinda a paradox since sporty and cruiser don't really go together. The bobber i saw made me think though.

P.S no offense to cruiser riders, if my wording comes off wrong.

Not on my planet

[Ixion]

good point, though even though some cruisers may not have forward control, the pegs on most are placed so the leg is more than 90 degree rather than the much further back sporty that sits closer to 45 degree. I suppose as someone earlier pointed out with a wiki definition, its the fact that cruisers tend to sit in a less cramped position, straightish back, legs not bent hard back.. :-)

That is a tourer riding position.

[ital916]

SO that means the terms, "cruisers" and "sportsbikes" etc refer only to the way they are styled as a cruiser can be ridden hard like a sports bike with non forward control and tourers can be used as a sports. Cruisers used for long distance with a tourer position are tourers? Confuzling innit lol

[Ixion]

I think you must accpet that few bikes are "purely" one thing or another. It is a seamless continuum. But some things are incompatible. The raked steering head characteristic of a cruisier is incompatible with the steep rake of a sprotsbike.

So rather than saying a bike "is a crusier" or "is a sprotsbike" etc one should say it is "strongly crusierish" or "moderately sprotsbikeish"

[johnnyflash]

That is a tourer riding position.

nope, I would say thats a Cruiser riding position, a tourer is more a statement about its baggage accessories, ie, any bike could be set up for 'TOURING' ie with panniers, racks, screen etc etc. plenty of people tour worldwide with a Dakar, wouldnt call it a cruiser though, :-) gets worse doesnt it but a general headings, a Cruiser or a Sporty is simple enough for most people (bikers or not) to say its this or that, besides which the manufacturers seem to classify them pretty well.

[Ixion]

Well, you could equally say that any bike could be set up as a crusier, with forward controls, high bars and chrome etc.

A tourer definately demands an upright sitting position. As well as luggage, weather protection, long range, good lights, good brakes and preferably no chain drive.

To be sure , one can tour on any bike. But equally, one could cruise on any bike.

And the tourer category long preceeded the invention of the crusier.

[mudthug]

Cruiser is mainly distinguished by its long wheelbase (stretch look) upright seating and low to the ground , ie Fatboy,Kawasaki classic, indian chief,Yamaha warrior, triumph america, Honda shadow etc

Tourers are characterised mainly by wind protection for the rider and ability to carry luggage in form of panniers or top box mounted at the rear, large capacity fuel tanks , ie electra glide, honda goldwing, BMW k1200LT

just my 2 cents

[Waylander]

Anybody know how much rice costs in China?

[The Lone Rider]

Or if you are a complete novice to bikes a few things you might hear are:

"Hey, your bike looks like the ones I see on tv racing"

or

"Hey, your bike looks like a Harley."

The underlying meaning shows!

[outlawtorn]

instead of worrying about what the bikes "classed"as Just find one you like the look of and how it rides and stuff what anyone else thinks of it

What he said, fuck em all, ride what YOU want!

[Ixion]

But I like 'em all! Touriers, crusiers (Except the ones with y' legs stuck out like a woman giving birth. can't get used to that) , sprotsbikes, chookchasers, they're all good. Each in their own way.

Except of course, that nothing quite matches a two smoker. Which I guess is really the problem with crusiers. No two strokes.

[ital916]

lol Yeah i agree with ride what you want, but it's still fun having a good ol debate, even about something like bike classifications. Oh and I believe its the price of fish in chine lol

[ukusa]

how bout this;
Cruiser = low seat, lean back, forward controls
Touring = tall seat, upright, mid controls
Sport = med seat, lean forward, rear controls
mix & match these & you get ........... a mongrel

maybe this could be a new catagory