What, exactly, is wrong with Harleys?

[MVnut]

Like the ford versus holden bullshit.

Yeah, they're both crap

[Ixion]

What, exactly is wrong with Harleys?. Well, 's'obvious, ain't it. They ain't got USD forks, have they. Right, case closed.

[Big Dave]

So what is the reliability like for the rest of the range?

Quote in next month's Kiwi Rider coincidentally.

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‘What are they like reliability wise though?’ came out when the conversation went past the Banter.

‘I think there’s an unreliabilty myth leftover from the AMF days.’

So I rang Lou, who looks after the rental f

[Big Dave]

I will? How far?

Wherever you go - there you'll be.

[Big Dave]

>>Well, 's'obvious, ain't it. They ain't got USD forks, have they. Right, case closed.<<

[smoky]

IMO - In recent years the Harley image has done a great deal to modernise itself. The fact that the Japs have stolen their genre has increased the competition has meant that HD have had to refine their offerings to stay in the game.

Of course their name still carry a lot of clout and is still almost like a religion however the range of bikes is now pretty good too. I have been on a Harley (pillion) ride in Europe and had a great time.

The HD comradery seems to span many usually incompatible boundaries. Accountants socialise with construction workers, who socialise with IT Managers, who socialise with grease monkeys. The list goes on and the bondability of HD is incredible.

For me, the most amazing part was to see how Harley owners admire others for the personalisation they give their bikes and also the 'board wear'. If you can get a Harley to corner and scuff the rear boards on the road; everyone wants to 'bling' you! Or so I amazingly experienced. Surely they were not designed to be cornered like that!

Harley Davidson = Image, comradery, and a great social leveller.

Never owned one myself. Not really into the image thing. But you never know what the future holds!

In other words it's a bit like joining some kinda fringe culture;

IMO - In recent years the Amish image has done a great deal to modernise itself. The fact that the Mormons have stolen their genre has increased the competition has meant that Amish have had to refine their offerings to stay in the game.

Of course their name still carry a lot of clout and is still almost like a religion however the range of cults is now pretty good too. I have been on a Amish commune in Europe and had a great time.

The Amish comradery seems to span many usually incompatible boundaries. Accountants socialise with construction workers, who socialise with IT Managers, who socialise with grease monkeys. The list goes on and the bondability of the Amish is incredible.

For me, the most amazing part was to see how Amish admire others for the personalisation they give their religion and also the 'board wear'. If you can get a Amish to swear and cuss; everyone wants to 'bling' you! Or so I amazingly experienced. Surely they were not designed to swear and cuss like that!

Amish = Image, comradery, and a great social leveller.

Not really into the Amish thing. But you never know what the future holds!

[scumdog]

There IS a point to all this Amish stuff??????????

[Pex Adams]

>>Well, 's'obvious, ain't it. They ain't got USD forks, have they. Right, case closed.<<

Its obvious its a girls bike thou!

[Big Dave]

Its obvious its a girls bike thou!

'Obvious' you haven't ridden one. :-P

One quick, great handling motorcycle

120 torquey horsepower, brembo brakes, good ground clearance, 8000km service intervals...etc etc etc.

Nobody bought them and they dropped it.

Something in that for all of us.

[speedpro]

We just got a couple of '05/'06 883Rs at work. XR styling cues, crinkle black cases, orange peanut tank and about 50hp with a pretty flat torque curve. I could be tempted real easy. Terry says 60hp with a little tweaking. The only Harleys I have ever been keen on taking for a ride.

[homer]

Like the ford versus holden bullshit.

yeah so true

Id never buy a holden ,but id have one and drive it every day if it was given to me

[jafar]

'Obvious' you haven't ridden one. :-P

One quick, great handling motorcycle

120 torquey horsepower, brembo brakes, good ground clearance, 8000km service intervals...etc etc etc.

Nobody bought them and they dropped it.

Something in that for all of us.

Harley don't seem to agree with you there mate :
http://www.harley-davidson.com/wcm/C...y&swffamily=vr

[Big Dave]

Nah mate - none of them is a Street rod.

night rod looks closest with mid controls - no usd forks and different ergos to the sweety streety.

[Bren]

Like the ford versus holden bullshit.

Okay...who forgot DODGE!

Yep - when you've got one you don't really give a fuck what anyone else thinks about it.

Some of us dont give a rats arse what others think about us now...

And the first GSXRs, CBRs, FZs, GPZs. And some very strange fashion sense. But at least Disco was dead.

Oh, hang on this was about Harleys wasn't it. Well at least Disco was dead.

Shit....is it? no wonder people look at me strange in my flares and huge arsed lapels....
...Is that why my 45's wont play on my computer....they never seemed to fit in the tray, so I thought it was a fancy arse coffee cup holder

There IS a point to all this Amish stuff??????????

um....they dont ride Harleys....poor bastards!

[Pwalo]

Okay...who forgot DODGE!





Shit....is it? no wonder people look at me strange in my flares and huge arsed lapels....
...Is that why my 45's wont play on my computer....they never seemed to fit in the tray, so I thought it was a fancy arse coffee cup holder

Yes, yes it is - on both counts.