I didn't -- it seems a fair enough mistake to make when the first bike you get back on after a while is a GT650R. If we were riding those around on learner permits a 70kph restriction might make sense there, but your average beginner's GN250/Scorpio doesn't exactly zoom off to 100kph in the blink of an eye.
BikerChick - If you are doing a lot of open road riding you can ask for dispensation (I did)
This allowed me to have a larger bike (up to 800) on my learners and for me to sit my full immediately thus getting over the 70km limit.
The last part was actually proposed by LTNZ as she said they don't want people who do loads of open road riding stuck in traffic doing 70km.
So I went from my learners to a large bike and a full licence very quickly and never actually had a restricted.
Wow! Thanks for that Tank. I'll follow that one up. I'd give you another click but it says "You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Tank again". Edgecumbe is small and we are always going into Whakatane. So far, I've always chickened out on the bike and gone in cage.
Cheers,
Mavis
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I've always advocated that cc restrictions should be abolished. You can kill yourself just as easily on a 250 as 1000. 'Dont' apply to cars why bikes?
Skyryder
Free Scott Watson.
I kind of see what you're saying, Skyryder -- I can run wide on a corner and smack into a truck just as easily on my 250 as you can on a Busa, but unexpected difficulties (such as loss of rear-wheel traction when opening the throttle in a corner, and arriving at corners double the speed limit) are slightly more likely to occur on a 1000cc bike.
Hmm, i'm not so sure about abolishing the cc restrictions. Your av newbie whos never ridden a bike before and jumps straight on a 1000 is prob far more likely to either drop it, give it too much gas and skitch all over the place, or accidentally pull great big wheelies and end up with the bike on top of them.
But back to the original question, I guess that means no one knows anything?
The cc restrictions are a little daft, but I see the purpose in having some form of restriction on what can be ridden on a learner's licence. I'd personally favour the Australian way where models of bikes are approved for learner use on an individual basis; it gets over the patent illogicality of the NZ system where an Aprilia RS250 is learner legal, but a Suzuki DM-Z350 ain't. Some European countries operate a power limit - 39 bhp from memory in the UK - and you're allowed to ride any bike which doesn't put out more than that. And that includes bikes that have been professional restricted - there are learners riding around of Busas that only put out the required 39bhp.
The point in having some restriction is that it's a hell of a lot easier for someone to obtain (legally) a bike capable of warp speed than it is to obtain a car with similar performance. Twenty grand will buy you a brand new superbike capable of well over 300kph and 0-100 in less than three seconds. Try finding a car that'll do even close to that for the same money. You can't.
It is an undisputable fact that an accident on a bike is a hell of a lot more dangerous to the rider that the same accident would be for the driver of a car. It is also an undisputable fact that you are more likely to have an accident as a bike rider than you are as a car driver. I personally think there should be some restriction on the type of cars a learner can drive - based upon power to weight ratio, I think woulkd be best - but you can see why the restriction is in place for bikes.
However, the 70kph limit is plain illogical and dangerous with it.
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