Two-stroke advice?

[2fst4u]

Before I get a bike, I was just contemplating 2 strokes and 4 strokes. I know you need to mix the oil and fuel together for a 2 stroke but what fuel and what quantity? help please! Also what are the pros and cons of 2 strokes and 4 strokes? I ask this because I can see a mint rgv250 on trademe for $1500. I know I need to take a closer look at it but yea. thanks in advance.

[Ixion]

I can cut you a really keen deal on a bulk purchase of Gene-O-Kleen ® - "Evolution you can see " .

[2fst4u]

I can cut you a really keen deal on a bulk purchase of Gene-O-Kleen ® - "Evolution you can see " .

haha, good call. but seriously

[Ixion]

Well, apart from the fact that two strokes are unreliable, need constant rebuilding, cost a fortune for expensive oil that gets burnt almost as fast as petrol, are vicious brutes to ride that will throw you into the ditch, have no electric starter, and parts cost a fortune, yes, seriously.

[Donor]

Well, apart from the fact that two strokes are unreliable, need constant rebuilding, cost a fortune for expensive oil that gets burnt almost as fast as petrol, are vicious brutes to ride that will throw you into the ditch, have no electric starter, and parts cost a fortune, yes, seriously.

Well them's the good points...

Now outline some cons for us!

[Badjelly]

Well, apart from the fact that two strokes are unreliable, need constant rebuilding, cost a fortune for expensive oil that gets burnt almost as fast as petrol, are vicious brutes to ride that will throw you into the ditch, have no electric starter, and parts cost a fortune, yes, seriously.

And emit lots of hydrocarbons in their exhaust, though obviously nobody around here cares about that.

[2fst4u]

haha, i've gone off that idea then. i might just stick with the $5000+ ZXR's and CBR's then

[gijoe1313]

And not to be forgetting the Ring-a-ding-ding! The rich smell of oil evaporating into the air and onto one's clothing! The constant grudging looks your neighbours shoot you as you ride in late in the evening, perusing parts catalogues and scratching your head as you try to get it all operational again.

Ahh, two stroker smokers, 'tis bliss!

Just remember, they won't be building them anymore, or like they used to, nope, nope, nope!

Now, where did I put that whatchamacallit that takes the doohickey off that fandangoblasted gimballgizmo?

[quallman1234]

Well, apart from the fact that two strokes are unreliable, need constant rebuilding, cost a fortune for expensive oil that gets burnt almost as fast as petrol, are vicious brutes to ride that will throw you into the ditch, have no electric starter, and parts cost a fortune, yes, seriously.

Nay! Just an urban myth although if you don't know what your doing then yes!

Although i would say get a 4 stroke, a RGV250 would be far too much for you. One great thing about learning on two strokes is that you learn preicesed throttle control and gear changes.

That 1500$ RGV250 off trademe will probabaly shit it self within the next 2000km, Go for a 250 V-twin.

[Rosie]

And emit lots of hydrocarbons in their exhaust, though obviously nobody around here cares about that.

Synthetic 2-stroke oil is carbon neutral

[Str8 Jacket]

2 Strokes FTW!!!

[faredce]

Well, apart from the fact that two strokes are unreliable, need constant rebuilding, cost a fortune for expensive oil that gets burnt almost as fast as petrol, are vicious brutes to ride that will throw you into the ditch, have no electric starter, and parts cost a fortune, yes, seriously.

whooo bad experience huh
not unreliable but can be tempremental u just have to be nice to them found them easier to maitain, oil is expensive yes but $25-30 here and there compared to a rebuild is not a big deal spent 5x that on a night out occasionally, my rs125 has an electric starter loves the good oil and i treat her good with a kiss at night b4 bed and she loves it havent had a trouble

[Ragingrob]

I saw an 89 CBR on there that looked in pretty decent condition going for $2,200 asking price! Dunno if it's already been taken cause it was damn good value for money.

[Badjelly]

Before I get a bike, I was just contemplating 2 strokes and 4 strokes.

I think it's fair to say, in this day and age, if you're not sure that you want a 2-stroke, then you want a 4-stroke.

Ixion gave a somewhat exaggerated view:

Well, apart from the fact that two strokes are unreliable, need constant rebuilding, cost a fortune for expensive oil that gets burnt almost as fast as petrol, are vicious brutes to ride that will throw you into the ditch, have no electric starter, and parts cost a fortune, yes, seriously.

and faredce sprang ungrammatically to their defense

not unreliable but can be tempremental u just have to be nice to them found them easier to maitain, oil is expensive yes but $25-30 here and there compared to a rebuild is not a big deal spent 5x that on a night out occasionally, my rs125 has an electric starter loves the good oil and i treat her good with a kiss at night b4 bed and she loves it havent had a trouble

I think faredce is closer to the truth (and I think Ixion was being ironic).

I myself had mostly good experiences with my Suzuki GT250 back in the old days (though the GT was a placid beast compared with the modern ringdingers). However I wouldn't have one again, because of the poor fuel economy, the smoky exhaust and the irritating noise.

[Str8 Jacket]

I absolutely love 2 smokers but having blown up 2 within a month of each other I now understand how "unreliable" that they can actually be.... 2 smokers are noisy, smelly, tempremental angry little buggars and that's a huge part of why I love them! Use fully synthetic oil and you'll never what to get of it! 2 smokers can take up alot more attention than say a 4 stroke but they definately give back over 100%!!!