Oh I'm sorry dear, I didn't see you!

[discotex]

I wonder if you've actually read that paper

I believe the relevant part is:

Unfortunately,
the relationship between car color and safety is not at all clear, because only two scientific investigations of the matter have been conducted to date, and the authors of both studies admitted that they were not able to draw clear or generalizable conclusions.

The big question comes down to whether this causes a reduction in accident rates - to be honest, it doesn't really matter. If you can be more visible, why not? If there's any chance it can reduce your likelihood of being in an accident, why not?

If there's a chance you could be slightly tired you better not ride. That'll increase your odds of being in an accident far more. Do you ride 30mins either side of sunrise and sunset? There's a proven link between that time and accident rates.

If it doesn't make a difference to your safety why bother wearing fluro? Wouldn't it be better to focus on wearing proper protection that is proven without doubt to stop injury?

Sure I'll give you that it's all about odds but there's lots more people don't do that will improve their odds over high-vis vests.

[Subike]

should the red stop light (the bikes) that was visible because you were stopped been enough to catch her peripheral vision?
You were stationary ? with your brake on?
And I dont think you wee a small target like a cyclist?
I dont think that wearing any "special" colour would have made a difference from the discription of the incident, but maybe lane position possibly could have helped.
What ever, good points from all posts, make for a bit of thought when aproaching controled or uncontoled intersections.
Watch out for dumb folk who drive blind

[sunhuntin]

not to deviate from the thread any more than already has been, but i bought a fluro my first winter on the bike. i wore it when going home from work after 7pm in the rain. i did not notice a decrease of tail gating or being pulled out on by cagers. so i stopped bothering.

[Upgrader]

Frenda mine reckons thjat car drovers think those of us wear hivis are chickins**t and skeered of them. So they more likely to cut us off so forth.. Itsa point of view. I just wear blck cuase it doesnt show dirt but I like ta keep the Softie's lights clean and workin.

[Jantar]

Frenda mine reckons thjat car drovers think those of us wear hivis are chickins**t and skeered of them. So they more likely to cut us off so forth.. Itsa point of view. I just wear blck cuase it doesnt show dirt but I like ta keep the Softie's lights clean and workin.

The BDOTGNZA would appreciate a translation of this statement.

[Ixion]

The BDOTGNZA would appreciate a translation of this statement.

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"frnd a min rknz doz hu wr hivi r cknsht n skrd o dm so dy + lkly 2 ct uz off n so 4th iza pt of vu i wear blk cz it dznt sho da dirt but I lik 2 kep da softies ltz clkn n wkng"

That help ?

[Boob Johnson]

Just another reminder that You should never expect to be seen, even at 2 meters away.

The End.

But you can be heard at 2 metres













its called a TL thou

Makes me wanna go fire it up now, loud as buggery with yoshi's on.

If anyone else on the road choses to have a brain fart & not see a 250ish KG mass next to them then they sure as shit are gunna hear you on a bike like a TL, targeting more senses is best.

[hellkat]

I realise this is an old thread now, but a legal point here:

Don't know about here in NZ, but in the UK, "Sorry, I didn't see you" is often used by the solicitors for the claimant (i.e., the biker) as a legal admission of fault, and therefore liability for the accident. If the person who knocks you off or (you believe) causes the accident says that ... then you'd be well advised to take it to your insurer.

And of course your witness - you did have a witness, didn't you? - also heard them say it.

I realise (Bass Treble) that your lady-at-fault here has offered to pay out of her own pocket, but if its a matter of an insurance case, then I would ALWAYS attempt to use their admission that they did not see you, as an admission of liability.