New licence system

[xwhatsit]

Now, that's a big bike, exactly what the big people want. Bit light of course, but a bit of lead can easily be added. Obviously a much better choice than an R6.

Bahahaha, you've said it much better than I ever could. That's all it is, really, just a big laugh trying to trick the authorities into letting them ride their dream wank-bike so they don't feel like a loser on a 250. Nothing to do with being tall or fat or whatever. Crock of shit.

Anyway, I'll go and do some work and in the meantime await the red rep.

[The Pastor]

Why do people stress out so much on the size of the bike they're allowed to ride when it's for such a short time?????:spudwhat:

SOME PEOPLE KEEP THE 250'S A LONG TIME AFTER THEY GET THERE FULL

[Horse]

Wow - overly broad generalisations on KB. Who'da thunk it?

Now, I don't want to ride no fecking sprotbike. So I'm riding the biggest 250 cruiser available - the Hyosung GV250. It is a good size, but still a little on the small side for me, and I'm 5'11" and 105kg. I'd be much happier and comfortable on a slightly larger bike.

BTW, I agree with you on the Hyosung GT250, having seen one in the flesh - they're a good sized bike. But if you paid close attention here (ie on KB generally), you may have noticed that Hyosungs apparently aren't real motorbikes, and real motorcyclists wouldn't be caught dead on one.

[scumdog]

Wow - overly broad generalisations on KB. Who'da thunk it?

BTW, I agree with you on the Hyosung GT250, having seen one in the flesh - they're a good sized bike. But if you paid close attention here (ie on KB generally), you may have noticed that Hyosungs apparently aren't real motorbikes, and real motorcyclists wouldn't be caught dead on one.

THAT is on KB - in the real world it's a bit different, nobody cares what you ride (except monobrow slack jawed mouth-reathing drongos - some of them are on KB too)

[scumdog]

SOME PEOPLE KEEP THE 250'S A LONG TIME AFTER THEY GET THERE FULL

True - and then there are those who don't want to be on a 250 ever.

[Ixion]

SOME PEOPLE KEEP THE 250'S A LONG TIME AFTER THEY GET THERE FULL

True. But for them, since it is volitional, they presumably are not stressed out about it. They ride a 250 because they *want* a 250 . After all, there were lots of 250s (and smaller) sold before the GDLS was invented.

[firefighter]

Interesting how many "big people" find that extra 350cc seems somehow to spread out from the engine to the frame.

Some comparative specs :

<TABLE>

  .                                 Hyosung GT250          Yamaha R6

Length                                 2080                       2039
Width                                  750                         701
Height                                 1170                       1099
Wheelbase                              1455                       1379
Weight                                 155                         166
Seat height                            795                         850

</TABLE>

So, the R6 has a two inch higher seat than the 250, and weighs 10 kg more. All other dimensions, the 250 is *bigger* than the R6.

Guess that seat height must be the thing that matters.

So, it's all good, the new laws mean all the big folk will be able to ride bikes that really suit them Like the DR650

Length 2255
Width 865
Height 1195
Wheelbase 1490
Weight 147
Seat height 885

Now, that's a big bike, exactly what the big people want. Bit light of course, but a bit of lead can easily be added. Obviously a much better choice than an R6.

Interesting figures, but what i'm meaning about too small (apart from it's physical size) is that it's like putting 5 big samoans into a nippy little european car- no longer will it zoom around or handle well, but it rides well with just one, well when I get on those little bikes It feels like just that (me being 5 big islanders! lol) although I will have to try out the hyosung! surprised at that..... and the DR650, i take it that it's the dirt bike looking thing......hmmmm doesn't really look like the kinda bike i'd like to cruise on around the north island through twisties etc! and as i'm not really into those bikes I wouldn't really enjoy it unless I was in the dirt...........

[Rogue]

Interesting figures, but what i'm meaning about too small (apart from it's physical size) is that it's like putting 5 big samoans into a nippy little european car- no longer will it zoom around or handle well, but it rides well with just one, well when I get on those little bikes It feels like just that (me being 5 big islanders! lol) although I will have to try out the hyosung! surprised at that..... and the DR650, i take it that it's the dirt bike looking thing......hmmmm doesn't really look like the kinda bike i'd like to cruise on around the north island through twisties etc! and as i'm not really into those bikes I wouldn't really enjoy it unless I was in the dirt...........

The DR650 would go all day at 120km 2 up had a very good write up in the Kiwi Rider a while back
Bit heavy for the dirt, great on adventure rides
I thought they looked a bit old school, but there is a black one at Boyd Motorcyles in Hamilton that looks very smart

[The Pastor]

True - and then there are those who don't want to be on a 250 ever.

True. But for them, since it is volitional, they presumably are not stressed out about it. They ride a 250 because they *want* a 250 . After all, there were lots of 250s (and smaller) sold before the GDLS was invented.

you both forgot the poor people. some people want a new bike but can't afford it.

i sorta have a dilema, I don't need a faster bike (i keep up ok) I want one, but i know if i have one i'll be way to fast for the public roads. I keep telling myself, "slow down" when im not on the bike, but when i jump on all logic and reason goes out the window.

then again, i can't afford a new bike. and as long as i belive that my 250 will keep me happy for a long time yet. I will crack 100k's on it (100k's that ive done, the bike will have done 140 000 )

then again, i get the same fuel and tyre range of a modern 1000 (14-15km/l 5000km out of tyres).

im so confuesd.

btw if somone is in the same situation as me, gets the full but cant afford to upgrade DO NOT GO TEST RIDING NEW BIKES. They are far better than the POS you will be riding and when you jump back on it, you will not enjoy it and you will sign up for the loan. just don't do it man. When i did it I didnt ride my bike for 3 weeks!!!!

[Ixion]

.. and the DR650, i take it that it's the dirt bike looking thing......hmmmm doesn't really look like the kinda bike i'd like to cruise on around the north island through twisties etc! and as i'm not really into those bikes I wouldn't really enjoy it unless I was in the dirt...........

Oscar? Nordie? Merv? Motu? Should we tell him? Or keep our secret. We don;t want the masses finding out about it after all

[Ixion]

you both forgot the poor people. some people want a new bike but can't afford it.

i sorta have a dilema, I don't need a faster bike (i keep up ok) I want one, but i know if i have one i'll be way to fast for the public roads. I keep telling myself, "slow down" when im not on the bike, but when i jump on all logic and reason goes out the window.

then again, i can't afford a new bike. and as long as i belive that my 250 will keep me happy for a long time yet. I will crack 100k's on it (100k's that ive done, the bike will have done 140 000 )

then again, i get the same fuel and tyre range of a modern 1000 (14-15km/l 5000km out of tyres).

im so confuesd.

btw if somone is in the same situation as me, gets the full but cant afford to upgrade DO NOT GO TEST RIDING NEW BIKES. They are far better than the POS you will be riding and when you jump back on it, you will not enjoy it and you will sign up for the loan. just don't do it man. When i did it I didnt ride my bike for 3 weeks!!!!

This is very true. We must all (well, most of us) cut our coat according to our cloth.

And most of us when young rode bikes that we could afford, rather than those we really wanted.

I'm just a poor old man, I still ride what I can afford. Maybe the 'afford' is a bit more than you, but , like you , I look at new bikes and sigh. Mr Motu and I are the bottom feeders, we wait for the rich folk to throw away their nice bikes because the ash trays are full and take on their cast offs.

Not many people can afford to go out and buy whatever they want. (Shut up Mr Finn, you're already on the list for 'special treatment' come the revolution)

But I see your sensible resolve to live within the boundaries of what is practical as an excellent sign of maturity and adulthood, There are people out there who go through a whole lifetime of misery and stress and never learn that lesson. It's called growing up, and you've obviously made the grade.

It gets easier as you go on, whereas the alternative gets harder.

[Finn]

Not many people can afford to go out and buy whatever they want. (Shut up Mr Finn, you're already on the list for 'special treatment' come the revolution)

Revolution? In New Zealand? I don't think so. The sheep will always queue for the sharing*.

* purposely mis-spelt.

[Bikernereid]

As someone who will be getting a license when arriving in NZ I am more concerned about getting the wierd traffic light rules and making sure that I don't get wiped out than the 'size' of my bike.

I would rather spend a year on a restricted license and make sure I have plenty of experience and feel ready to move up to a bigger bike then rush and regret it. Maybe it is just my age and appreciation of my life that makes me more conservative in this respect.

[Ixion]

Eh? Weird traffic light rules? Go on green, stop on red, stop if you safely can on amber? What's so weird?

[quickbuck]

Eh? Weird traffic light rules? Go on green, stop on red, stop if you safely can on amber? What's so weird?

Yep, all normal for this part of the world...

The uncontrolled intersection, and the "Give Way to vehicles turning Right" (Yes at some traffic lights too, where arrows haven't been installed yet) may be what is being referred to...