Police blast speed cameras.

[JMemonic]

Red light cameras are great tools, unfortunately under utilised, I could think of several intersections that could do with one, the also should get the photo from the front and rear in ans attempt to show the driver, this would turn them into a road safety device. If it can be proven this ways a particular driver is a regular red light runner the loose they privilege to drive until such time as they can prove they know the difference between the colours of the lights.

Speed cameras on the other hand are revenue gathering, plain and simple, when they get hidden behind bushes etc they have no effect on motorists behaviour, how often does one observer the patrol car on the side of the road all cars slow down effect, that is more of a road safety thing.

How about we don't ban radar detectors instead they are encouraged, and cheap filed generators are fitted to mobile mock police cars that could be dotted around the country, then eventually we could work on filling those cars with warranted officers who's duties relate solely to traffic enforcement, leaving sworn police to do the serious work of dealing with "real" crime.

[Drew]

Perzackly! Fortunately you weren't pinged for it. Unfortunately, I was...

But I wasn't paying attention, so I would have deserved a ticket if pulled up for it, is what I was trying to say.

[Coyote]

Yeah, cameras show way more discretion...

Totally agree, they don't throw in breach of licence fines

[Ting Tong]

Speed cameras on the other hand are revenue gathering, plain and simple, when they get hidden behind bushes etc they have no effect on motorists behaviour, how often does one observer the patrol car on the side of the road all cars slow down effect, that is more of a road safety thing.

Oh please, same old moaning that cameras are revenue gathering. They are positioned in areas where there have been accidents or even fatals. The whole idea is to get drivers to slow down all the time not just when they see a camera or Police car.

How about we don't ban radar detectors instead they are encouraged, and cheap filed generators are fitted to mobile mock police cars that could be dotted around the country, then eventually we could work on filling those cars with warranted officers who's duties relate solely to traffic enforcement, leaving sworn police to do the serious work of dealing with "real" crime.

What do you think traffic cops do? we are dedicated traffic officers who ARE real cops and not just to enforce traffic. The old days werent good as the old traffic cops werent allowed to deal with REAL crime as you put it. Have you ever had to deal with a fatal where speeding was an issue? have you ever had to inform the family of a death and see the life drain out of their eyes? How often does someone die as a result of a burglary or theft, the real crimes you speak of?? Luckily you dont have to deal with all of this, we do! its nice to sit in your warm home bitching about everything but you would soon change your tune should you have to deal with all of the mayhem that drivers and riders cause! and not just to the drivers or riders more importantly to the innocent law abiding members of society. If i have to issue a ticket to every single person in the country and it saves one life then i have done my job, others wont see it my way but i really hate dealing with these deaths, they ARE avoidable its just the standard or driving and riding in this country is crap! and its everyone elses fault but yours, especially when you get a ticket for something you know you were doing!!!

[The Stranger:Me]

Agree, even though I have had one speed camera fine for 61 in a 50 and a recent 112km/h fine. All I can say in my case is that I was watching the road and other traffic instead of my speedo, and both tickets were on downhill sections in automatics...

What were you thinking focusing on your surroundings?
Keep your bloody eyes fixed on that speedo in future FFS.

[JMemonic]

What do you think traffic cops do? we are dedicated traffic officers who ARE real cops and not just to enforce traffic.

Really ok that's good to know, then why do I have issues when I ring up on a recent Friday night after my partner has had a bottle thrown at her in a car park by some drunken youth because she had the audacity to question his right to urinate on her car, only to be told sorry its not a priority as we are busy with traffic at the moment,

The old days werent good as the old traffic cops werent allowed to deal with REAL crime as you put it.

No but in comparison we had more police, (who just in case you are getting the wrong idea I actually respect, they are just doing their job in an under resourced situation), dedicated to dealing with real crime ie assaults, burglary etc than the current situation of having a police force divided in duties between traffic enforcement, revenue gathering and what we the public see as real police work, that is when we get burgled, assaulted etc, we do not want to be told its not a priority and to come into a station to file a report especially when we drive down the road to see an officer in a vehicle doing speed checks or better sitting in a camera car, how is that effective use of manpower ?

Have you ever had to deal with a fatal where speeding was an issue? have you ever had to inform the family of a death and see the life drain out of their eyes?

No to all of the above, its not currently part of my occupation.

How often does someone die as a result of a burglary or theft, the real crimes you speak of??

Oh please, careful on this one its happening more often and there are cases here in this fine county of ours unfortunately. Would more police on the beat in central Christchurch meant that the stabbing of tourists recently might not have happened we will never know

Luckily you dont have to deal with all of this, we do! its nice to sit in your warm home bitching about everything but you would soon change your tune should you have to deal with all of the mayhem that drivers and riders cause! and not just to the drivers or riders more importantly to the innocent law abiding members of society. If i have to issue a ticket to every single person in the country and it saves one life then i have done my job, others wont see it my way but i really hate dealing with these deaths, they ARE avoidable its just the standard or driving and riding in this country is crap! and its everyone elses fault but yours, especially when you get a ticket for something you know you were doing!!!

Now I suggest you get of your rocking horse and re read my original post I did not make disparaging comments about police, just the methods used to disguise speed cameras and their effectiveness as a tool for reducing speed as opposed to their ability to collect revenue. I also offered suggestions around the usage of mock or dummy cars and perhaps the usage of warranted officers thus freeing up police to deal with what police are always complaining about and that is not having enough staff to attend "real" crime.

If I have my understanding of the situation and police feeling about this is incorrect then the officers I have spoken to are wrong as are your own union who have stated that there is a lack of officers.

How is it the Police are paid by the LTSA to enforce traffic safety and those account to hours of traffic enforcement at the expense of all other duties, or is this yet again another misunderstanding, would that money not be better spent having non sworn staff manning a speed camera for 8 hours than a sworn police officer that could be concentrating on better duties?

[JMemonic]

If i have to issue a ticket to every single person in the country and it saves one life then i have done my job

Bugger had meant to comment on this sentence in the previous post but had other things to deal with, if you were issuing a ticket by stopping someone speeding, dangerous driving, drunk or under the influence of drugs etc and that slowed someone down or took someone off the road who potentially could have caused injury or death good on you, however if that same person got a ticket in the mail what effect did that have on a potentially dangerous situation at that point in time, to bad if the one ticketed had already caused mayhem and carnage.But no the speed camera did its job it scared them into slowing down and took a person out of a patrol car and let them read a nice book on the side of the road. Tui ad here.

[The Pastor]

If i have to issue a ticket to every single person in the country and it saves one life then i have done my job,

so how dose issuing tickets save lives? no bit of paper is going to change accidents.

why dont you stop snooping around looking for people to ticket and piss off.

[Coldrider]

What do you think traffic cops do? we are dedicated traffic officers who ARE real cops and not just to enforce traffic. The old days werent good as the old traffic cops werent allowed to deal with REAL crime as you put it. Have you ever had to deal with a fatal where speeding was an issue? have you ever had to inform the family of a death and see the life drain out of their eyes? How often does someone die as a result of a burglary or theft, the real crimes you speak of?? Luckily you dont have to deal with all of this, we do! its nice to sit in your warm home bitching about everything but you would soon change your tune should you have to deal with all of the mayhem that drivers and riders cause! and not just to the drivers or riders more importantly to the innocent law abiding members of society. If i have to issue a ticket to every single person in the country and it saves one life then i have done my job, others wont see it my way but i really hate dealing with these deaths, they ARE avoidable its just the standard or driving and riding in this country is crap! and its everyone elses fault but yours, especially when you get a ticket for something you know you were doing!!!

Haven't you got a police magazine to subscribe too. You could save the world in that. Have you really got a R1, it doesn't fit with your doctrine.

[Matt_TG]

It sounds like people think Police get the money from traffic offences... doesn't the government? Aren't the Police to enforce what the government tells them to enforce? Don't we elect the government? It's all our fault then The KB way though is to not only shoot the messenger but to run him over, then back up and make sure he's dead.

[jahrasti]

While one may see traffic cars as just that traffic, The Police have some good powers in respects to finding people's ID. Criminals have to travel to and you would be surprised who and what they come accross in routine stops. I don't do traffic but am just trying to show a different point of veiw.

Also what about the cocksuckers that defend blatant tickets in the hope that the Popo in charge don't show or what ever. Yes they have the right to defend them, but also shouldn't they be flamed for wasting valuable resourses?

[avgas]

bah
if you dont like it run a radar or dont speed.
its the 150kph loose ya license thing that gets me.

[avgas]

Haven't you got a police magazine to subscribe too. You could save the world in that. Have you really got a R1, it doesn't fit with your doctrine.

Have you got a ZX9 or is that your penis talking

[Biggles08]

While one may see traffic cars as just that traffic, The Police have some good powers in respects to finding people's ID. Criminals have to travel to and you would be surprised who and what they come accross in routine stops. I don't do traffic but am just trying to show a different point of veiw.

I've no problem with cops pulling me over and doing routine checks for this reason but check out this thread and let me know your thoughts on this cocksucker for wasting court time and resources!?!

Also what about the cocksuckers that defend blatant tickets in the hope that the Popo in charge don't show or what ever. Yes they have the right to defend them, but also shouldn't they be flamed for wasting valuable resourses?

See above.

[avgas]

I just don't see the link between speeding and the road toll :/ skidmark is still alive.

He doesn't ride fast enough yet. But he keeps trying.
All points aside speed doesn't kill. But apparently its wrong to do a "Stupid test" on drivers - if it wasn't i would distribute drinks to Auckland labeled "Poison - do no drink" to thin out their numbers.