Another speed camera rant, anyone had a Reminder Notice recently?

[Banesto John]

As with any ticket you have to receive a Reminder Notice. The Police or Council will try and say that sending one in the post is sufficient - it isn't. In law you MUST be served with one.

Please advise the law that says that "you MUST be served with one." (Your quote).

The Summary Proceeding Act says.......

"the Registrar shall deliver to the defendant or send to the defendant by ordinary post addressed to the defendant's last known place of residence or business, a notice of the fine."

As far as I can see, if you filled out a motor vehicle registration document 2 years ago (for example) saying you lived at a particular place, this then entitles them to send it by ordinary post to that address.

I'll look forward to your advice as to what law says they have to serve the reminder notice. I have found some of your legal advice to be "interesting", and at variance with actual statute.

[Banesto John]

Isn't it interesting how, when people get caught doing something, their immediate reaction is to deflect blame? It's revenue collecting, what about the boy racers, go catch a gang member, the ticket was written incorrectly?

This looks like another case of blame deflection.

Like, when will it be that people accept responsibility for what they did wrong, and just get on with life. I don't believe anyone ever said we have to be perfect, so admit you were speeding, and move on.

Perversely, I'd also suggest that if the notices are wrong, the feds just take it on the chin, fix the problem and move on.

Why can't we ever look in the mirror and accept that we made a mistake?

[Patrick]

No no no... its the wording on the back of the ticket that made him speed... apparently.....

[swbarnett]

Like, when will it be that people accept responsibility for what they did wrong, and just get on with life.

While I don't usually jump up and down bleating about the injustice of a speeding ticket, I, and many others, don't accept that we were doing anything wrong. It has been shown time and time again that speed alone does not reduce public safety.

[awayatc]

While I don't usually jump up and down bleating about the injustice of a speeding ticket, I, and many others, don't accept that we were doing anything wrong. It has been shown time and time again that speed alone does not reduce public safety.

The world would be a colourless place if we all just meekly obeyed by the rules, and never questioned anything or pushed the boundaries.
Recently Nana brings up its dependants to be perfect public servants, become a glorified human automatum to "Do as you are told"......" follow the rules".....
If you don't push the boundaries, you should at least check em periodicly..

[scumdog]

While I don't usually jump up and down bleating about the injustice of a speeding ticket, I, and many others, don't accept that we were doing anything wrong. It has been shown time and time again that speed alone does not reduce public safety.

Who fucking cares -IT'S THE LAW.

Like driving on the left-hand side of the road or not drinking and driving etc

Don't worry about all the 'speed kills' stuff - just accept it's the law.

Sheesh, how hard is that???

[swbarnett]

Who fucking cares -IT'S THE LAW.

Like driving on the left-hand side of the road or not drinking and driving etc

Don't worry about all the 'speed kills' stuff - just accept it's the law.

Sheesh, how hard is that???

If someone passed a law making alcohol illegal would you stop drinking?

[scumdog]

If someone passed a law making alcohol illegal would you stop drinking?

Probably.

But one thing I WOULDN'T do is moan my frikkin' arse off about how unfair it was and how the anti-drinking messages were shit etc etc...

[awayatc]

If someone passed a law making alcohol illegal would you stop drinking?

While on duty you mean?......

[Mr Triple]

The world would be a colourless place if we all just meekly obeyed by the rules, and never questioned anything or pushed the boundaries.
Recently Nana brings up its dependants to be perfect public servants, become a glorified human automatum to "Do as you are told"......" follow the rules".....
If you don't push the boundaries, you should at least check em periodicly..

You'd be used to speed cameras in your town, they're there every second day.

[swbarnett]

Probably.

But one thing I WOULDN'T do is moan my frikkin' arse off about how unfair it was and how the anti-drinking messages were shit etc etc...

With an attitude like that it's no wonder the Government gets away with so much.

I don't generally moan about the speed issue either. I've long since given up expecting a majority of the country to understand what it means to live (as opposed to just surviving). I will however try and put my side of the story when the subject comes up.

[scumdog]

With an attitude like that it's no wonder the Government gets away with so much.

I don't generally moan about the speed issue either. I've long since given up expecting a majority of the country to understand what it means to live (as opposed to just surviving). I will however try and put my side of the story when the subject comes up.

How noble of you

[Ixion]

Who fucking cares -IT'S THE LAW.

Like driving on the left-hand side of the road or not drinking and driving etc

Don't worry about all the 'speed kills' stuff - just accept it's the law.

Sheesh, how hard is that???

So is parking a cage and not returning before the meter runs out. If I do, and get a parking ticket, I will sigh, but pay without major complaint. It is just another tax laoded onto us by a capitalist government. But I will certainly object if some prat of a parking warden tries to cast me as a criminal for over parking.

So likewise with speeding. If caught, I pay the tax. But you would receive a sharp dressing down if you tried to come the "criminal" lark.

I must in fairness say that the only two speeding tickets I have ever recieved were handled in a professional and straight forward manner. "Clocked you at xxx. Want to see the reading. No, OK here's the ticket." Just like a parking ticket.

[Sanx]

Probably.

But one thing I WOULDN'T do is moan my frikkin' arse off about how unfair it was and how the anti-drinking messages were shit etc etc...

Which makes me wonder how much you would stop doing if some reality-detached bureacrat decided to introduce a bill against it, and got his politically weak-minded fellow party members to go along with it.

Whilst I have a massive problem with the way road safety is (or isn't) promoted in New Zealand, getting speeding tickets is simply part of the risk you take every time you go out and enjoy yourself. Getting a ticket is not unfair. But it's certainly absolutely pointless, of not completely counter-productive, in terms of road safety. But it does increase the government's revenue and allow the Police to claim they're doing something, even if that something is actually making things worse.

The link between speeding and the road toll is simply not there, as any examination of the road toll, injuries, average speed and enforcement figures over the past few years. Not even such KB luminaries as SD have managed to come up with a convicing reason why with more tickets issued (an increase of almost 400%) and resulting lower road speeds, injuries and fatalities have gone up.

So, there really is no point in complaining about getting a ticket, especially with the preaching holier-than-thou hypocrites that infest this particular forum. Pay it, get over it, and then do something about the system that allows the situation to continue.

[awayatc]

You'd be used to speed cameras in your town, they're there every second day.

Luckily I am only there every other month.....
But yes I know how American humvee drivers must feel avoiding ambushes in Iraq......