Motorcyclists in dice with death

[Big Dave]

I disagree with your disagreement.

Make a car fall over.

[McJim]

Make a car fall over.

Muwahahahaha....there you go

[mowgli]

comes down to responabilty..........

That's blasphemy round here!!!

[Ixion]

Make a car fall over.

Show me the car driver with a spidey sense.

[Katman]

Make a car fall over.

Park a bike on it's centrestand in as big a puddle of diesel as you like and see how long it takes for it to fall over.

[Big Dave]

Park a bike on it's centrestand in as big a puddle of diesel as you like and see how long it takes for it to fall over.

You don't ride motorcycle with the stand down or when parked.

[swbarnett]

But - not undetectable. You will , if riding with all senses alert , smell diesel long before you can see it.

What if there's a strong enough wind blowing the fumes away from you?

Motorcycles aren't more dangerous than cars but they are less forgiving.

[mowgli]

Park a bike on it's centrestand in as big a puddle of diesel as you like and see how long it takes for it to fall over.

Big puddle huh? Cage approaches, fails to stop cos sum fooker spilled all this diesel, whammo! bike falls over.

So I guess it comes down to how busy is this hypothetical road is and how long until numb nuts cager turns up.

[Katman]

and how long until numb nuts cager turns up.

What about the numb nuts motorcyclist that parked the fucking thing in the middle of the road.

[Ixion]

What if there's a strong enough wind blowing the fumes away from you?

Motorcycles aren't more dangerous than cars but they are less forgiving.

Then you still see the rainbow. And, in my experience, smell it anyway.

To be sure, bikes are less forgiving. So, don't fuck up.

Yep, I'll agree, if you need to fuck up, go drive a cage.

As Mr Katman says, diesel + motorbike does NOT equal crash. Diesel + motorbike + rider MAY = crash.

So, the variable is the rider. YOU. You are the factor that makes the differnce between crash and no crash.

[mowgli]

What about the numb nuts motorcyclist that parked the fucking thing in the middle of the road.

Good point. But he'll just blame the government. Haven't you heard they've made personal responsibility a thing of the past.

[Big Dave]

Diesel + motorbike + velocity MAY = crash.

Irrespective of who is riding. The likelihood diminishes with experience, training etc - but it never disappears.

[Forest]

So, the variable is the rider. YOU. You are the factor that makes the differnce between crash and no crash.

I disagree.

There are plenty of situations and factors which can never be anticipated.

[Katman]

There are plenty of situations and factors which can never be anticipated.

Name some.

[mowgli]

There are plenty of situations and factors which can never be anticipated.

Just because you can't anticipate an event doesn't mean you can't mitigate or even negate its potential effect.