Cop tried to green sticker my bike because of my plate

[vifferman]

Or just bend the plate... although they might nit-pick on the 'damaged' clause...

That would be the most sensible (simplest) course of action. As long as the bent bit is above the numbers, it would be very nit-picky to bitch about it.

[HRT]

As nodrog said, why is everyone going on about this being a warrant issue? You don't need a number plate to get a warrant. You can screw it to your roof if you want and it wont be a warrant issue.

If thats the factory place to mount it and its clearly visible as per the requirements for a number plate then leave it. If it was mine I wouldn't want to be bending bits

[Max Preload]

Get yourself a copy of the Motorcycle riders' handbook. P59 gives all the legal requirements.
Plate must be able to be seen and read clearly within a 45 degree arc of the motorcycle's centre line at a distance of at least 20 metres.
Not hidden by anything, such as registration plate label holder.
Clearly readable, not dirty or damaged.
Free of any characteristics that would prevent the detection of a traffic offence.
Must have a light to ensure it is clearly visible at night.
It is an offence to alter a number plate in any way.
Use a number plate cover that is not flat, clear and untinted.
Have an obscured number plate.
If the bike fulfils all these requirements carry a copy of the handbook ready for the next time you are stopped by an over zealous "crime prevention officer"

www.nysdmv.com/mcmanual/mcmanual.htm

I'm pretty sure that won't help since it's nothing to do with NZ regulations.

[popelli]

did you actually get a ticket?

if not why worry

if you got a ticket and have a case go to court and defend it

I got a ticket years ago, went to court and the cops withdrew all evidence for the prosecution in order to prevent me defending myself

They knew they were about to lose their case and didn't want any case law of people successfully defending themselves agansts tickets for illegal plates

[forkoil]

45 degrees dude- not 90
For a cage that means for example -walk 6 paces parralel to the back of a car then 3 paces back away from it-thatll give ya 45 degrees

Ahhh, no it wont Frosty, your school geometry letting you down, 6 paces parallel to the back of the car then 6 paces back away from it, will give you 45 degrees, isosceles triangle, equal sides

[marty]

did you actually get a ticket?

if not why worry

if you got a ticket and have a case go to court and defend it

I got a ticket years ago, went to court and the cops withdrew all evidence for the prosecution in order to prevent me defending myself

They knew they were about to lose their case and didn't want any case law of people successfully defending themselves agansts tickets for illegal plates

really? if you know so much, you obviously know how case law is created. please enlighten us.......

[Max Preload]

As long as the bent bit is above the numbers, it would be very nit-picky to bitch about it.

And you would actually consider the Auckland highway patrol above this behaviour... good luck with that!

Ahhh, no it wont Frosty, your school geometry letting you down, 6 paces parallel to the back of the car then 6 paces back away from it, will give you 45 degrees, isosceles triangle, equal sides

But to clarify (pointlessly, I might add, given it's not even a NZ publication, he was close - not wanting to get into the minute details of the fact the method given of 6 x 3 paces actually gives 26.6 degrees... SOHCAHTOA and all that) he was assuming, as was I, that the ambiguous wording was referring to an included angle of 45 degrees (22.5 degrees either side of the centreline) whereas it seems from the diagram it was actually an included angle of 90 deg equispaced on the motorcycle centreline, which is 45 degrees either side or 6 x 6 paces. Still an isoceles triangle but also a right-angle triangle.

[Max Preload]

45 degrees dude- not 90
For a cage that means for example -walk 6 paces parralel to the back of a car then 3 paces back away from it-thatll give ya 45 degrees
best way to check the visibilit of your plate.
take a normal kitchen or office chair.
again take 10 paces sideways from your bike then 5 backwards.
put the office chair down on that spot.
Sit on the chair--can ya read your number plate ?

Actually, now I re-read that, it's completely wrong!

[eliot-ness]

I'm pretty sure that won't help since it's nothing to do with NZ regulations.

You're right. Googled NZ manual and assumed that was it.

[Ixion]

Just for the hell of it.

here is the law.

Transport (Vehicle Registration and Licensing) Notice 1995 (SR 1995/136)

6 Affixing of registration plates (other than trade plates)



Registration plates issued for a motor vehicle shall be displayed as follows:


(a) In the case of a motor vehicle other than a motor vehicle of any of the kinds specified in paragraph (b) of this clause, one plate shall be displayed on the front of the vehicle and one plate shall be displayed on the rear of the vehicle, and both plates shall be in an upright position and so displayed that every letter, figure, and distinguishing mark on the plate is easily visible:


(b) in the case of any motor cycle, moped, tractor, or trailer, one plate shall be displayed on the rear of the vehicle in an upright position and so displayed that every letter, figure, and distinguishing mark on the plate is easily visible.

No 45 degreeses or whatever. Just upright and easily visible.

[Max Preload]

Just for the hell of it.

here is the law.

No 45 degreeses or whatever. Just upright and easily visible.

I was just about to go looking for that - you saved me the trouble.

It doesn't mention that it has to be rear facing either... just that it must be mounted on the rear. Anything rear of the geometric middle could be considered the rear.

[sAsLEX]

Just for the hell of it.

here is the law.


No 45 degreeses or whatever. Just upright and easily visible.

So with the the letters facing up?

Still ambiguous as it does not define upright or(letters could be facing the sky) where it shall be clearly visible from.

[CookMySock]

So, cops won this round...

grr fuck them ay!!

FUCK THEM UP THE ARSE!!!

Oh, scuse.. Just having a moment there..

DB

[rudolph]

They are a bunch of homos

[Boob Johnson]

Thats quite a read. So to sum it all up for the young players, Morcs didn't get a ticket or green slipped for the plate, that was just another thing for the cop to have a go at him about. And why? Simple, because he was riding a lil too hard & thats what attracted the attention in the first place. I would imagine that if he (the 5....0) thought he could get away with fining you he would of, from your angle on things (no pun intended) he was pissed at you, so based on that I wouldn't change a thing..........




unless of course you want him & his colleges to pick on you from now on ;-)