On your learners? WEAR YOUR PLATE

[offrd]

Not a jew though

No nothing racist...

Anything else - is fine!

[Ixion]

Probably 'cos people like you are riding without L plates and keeping them from dealing with people doing 'something wrong'.

Were it other than ACD868 I would agree with you. But that officer's actions have destroyed his credibility, and I have little doubt that if he had not been able to write a ticket for "no L plate" he would have invented (and I use that word advisedly) some other offence.

Officer ACD868 has a personal hangout about motorcyclists, and he abuses the power of his badge to further his personal enmities.

[Sellout]

I only read the first couple of pages but....

I have the yellow badge on the back of my RZ but still travel at whatever the posted speed limit is (or a bit above )

Passed a cop in a merging lane on Johns Road (SH1) last week then proceeded to tootle along at around 80-85kph (80kph zone) right in front of him, yellow plate shining in his face, no problems... Although he could have been blinded by the 2smoke....

I figure that if I get fined for exceeding the 70kph its gotta be cheaper than the $400 for no "L" plate, I don't speed fast enough for that kinda fine!!

[vindy500]

I figure that if I get fined for exceeding the 70kph its gotta be cheaper than the $400 for no "L" plate, I don't speed fast enough for that kinda fine!!

nope, same $400 fine, difference would be if you got caught at 100 with no l plate, then you could get done for two licence breaches, $800

[BadCompany]

nope, same $400 fine, difference would be if you got caught at 100 with no l plate, then you could get done for two licence breaches, $800

But the cop would have to be a right twat to do you for both, let alone going over 70. Hell, I was doing 80 in a 50 zone with no L-Plate riding in the medium strip, and I got a lecture and warning.

[vindy500]

But the cop would have to be a right twat to do you for both,

agreed. I personally ride with no plate and go 100km, Go on the motorway quite often and done a trip up to palmy, i figure if i dont draw attention to myself ill be sweet

[BadCompany]

agreed. I personally ride with no plate and go 100km, Go on the motorway quite often and done a trip up to palmy, i figure if i dont draw attention to myself ill be sweet

Exactly, unfortunately I'm very good at saying 'Hey look at me coppa!'

[Slyer]

Firstly, that cop is a munter but you fully deserved what you got. The 100km/h rule is stupid but the learner plate is one that should always be followed.
Second, the jews aren't a race, it's a religion and when people call someone else a jew it's harmless fun 99% of the time.
Badco knows this.

[Qkchk:Me]

why on earth were you obeying the 70 km limit with no plate, either wear a plate and go 70 or not have it and go 100

I wouldnt rely on that tactic either. There are ways the cops know before they even pull you up what licence you have.

I'd say all they need to do is call up Police Comms and ask for a QVR (query vehicle registration) while they are still following you. Comms has all the details on computer like the registered owner of said vehicle and when the WOF and Rego run out (no good putting false rego and wof's on vehicles...) so if you put 1+1=2 together and do a QP (sp?) query person (which gives details of DOB, Licence classes and outstanding warrants etc..) on that registered vehicle, theres a GOOD CHANCE they could find out you are a Learner even before you realise they are following you. (Am I right Scummy?) Even so, if you borrow your mates bike theres still a good chance of getting caught - odds aint in your favour.

Best advice, save yourself some $$$ and extended time on your licence by obeying the law. It does suck and it is a STUPID law regarding the 70kph limit, however it was designed to give people fresh of their BHS (Basic Handling Skills) test a benchmark to learn in safety. You also got to keep in mind the fact that this may be their first licence (so no road experience what so ever... Motorcycle was my first of many licences..)

Everyone else has been in the same boat at same stage of their riding career and unfortunatley theres no fast/easy/smartarse way to get out of it unless you decide to run the gauntlet.

[DingoZ]

I wouldnt rely on that tactic either. There are ways the cops know before they even pull you up what licence you have.

I'd say all they need to do is call up Police Comms and ask for a QVR (query vehicle registration) while they are still following you. Comms has all the details on computer like the registered owner of said vehicle and when the WOF and Rego run out (no good putting false rego and wof's on vehicles...) so if you put 1+1=2 together and do a QP (sp?) query person (which gives details of DOB, Licence classes and outstanding warrants etc..) on that registered vehicle, theres a GOOD CHANCE they could find out you are a Learner even before you realise they are following you. (Am I right Scummy?) Even so, if you borrow your mates bike theres still a good chance of getting caught - odds aint in your favour.

Best advice, save yourself some $$$ and extended time on your licence by obeying the law. It does suck and it is a STUPID law regarding the 70kph limit, however it was designed to give people fresh of their BHS (Basic Handling Skills) test a benchmark to learn in safety. You also got to keep in mind the fact that this may be their first licence (so no road experience what so ever... Motorcycle was my first of many licences..)

Everyone else has been in the same boat at same stage of their riding carrer and unfortunatley theres no fast/easy/smartarse way to get out of it unless you decide to run the gauntlet.

+10.....Bling sent

[vifferman]

The cop obviously pulled you over because you were riding slowly and didn't have an "L" plate. Perhaps (maybe...) if you were riding at 100 km/h he would have ignored you. Maybe (perhaps) not...
Personally, I think that both the 70 km/h restriction and having to display an L-plate run contrary to road safety. In an ideal world, other motorists would go, "OH.... ain't that cute - a noobie!" and be careful and considerate around learners. The reality is that an "L" plate is like a bullseye painted on your back - to both other motorists and cops. And traveling at 70 km/h on the open road may give you some room to get used to motorcycle handling/steering, but it's definitely not safe. As soon as other motorists see the "L" they go, "Oh no! I'm going to get held up momentarily! The noob will crash into my SUV and kill me!" and they drive in an even more mercenary fashion than usual.

Yes, the law's the law. But it's also an ass.

[Slyer]

Hey was that you on the motorway on the north shore around 8:10? **zmb

[Racer X]

No, it's a well documented traffic reg. It's only revenue collecting from Stupid People (tm). Bit like those speeders who insist on travelling a lot faster than the speed limit on motorways or SHs 1 & 2.

No, pretty sure it's revenue collecting

[Ixion]

But the cop would have to be a right twat to do you for both, let alone going over 70. Hell, I was doing 80 in a 50 zone with no L-Plate riding in the medium strip, and I got a lecture and warning.

That particular cop is indeed the rightesat and twatiest of right twats.

[Mikkel]

But the cop would have to be a right twat to do you for both, let alone going over 70. Hell, I was doing 80 in a 50 zone with no L-Plate riding in the medium strip, and I got a lecture and warning.

Must have been your lucky day...

The reality is that an "L" plate is like a bullseye painted on your back - to both other motorists and cops.

Aww come on, let's not let this discussion degenerate into paranoid theories and scaremongering. If I count the number of times I've had some "old-timer" give me "good" advice on the matter of L-plates versus the number of times I've had anyone actually give me any hassle on the road while displaying one we're talking a factor of at least 10:1!

What's the next piece of advice? Always carry an easily accessible ballbearing for thrashing windscreens, get a loud exhaust it'll scare the fuckers and make them pay attention, always run your high-beam it'll make you more visible, etc ad nauseum.
The mentality you bring with you onto the road is the mentality you will get back - keep it friendly and respectful and you're more likely to have a good time.