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Not quite. License losing is 50kph over for a temporary speed restriction, 40 kph over for a permanent one
The reason the Harbour Bridge is 80kph is because that's what it's always been
And it was set at that in 1957 (yes!), because the original curve off the bridge onto the flat bit into Fanshawe St (ie going south, coming off the downhill onto the flat) was MUCH sharper than it now is (mainly because there was a honking big control post building stuck in the middle of the (single lane) curve!)
And it was calculated that ofr the rock and rolly cars of the day (we're talking Morrie Minors here), 50mph was the maximum safe speed (open road was 55mph).
Since then, cars have improved by an order of magnitude, the control building is gone, the curve is reengineered (and more lanes added). But, reconsider the spee dlimit? OMG Noes, noes, noes.
Originally Posted by skidmark
Originally Posted by Phil Vincent
These road work areas are so safe you wouldn't even need to wear a helmet going through them at 100kph,I don't know what you are all worried about.
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"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin (1706-90)
"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending to much liberty than those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826)
"Motorcycling is not inherently dangerous. It is, however, EXTREMELY unforgiving of inattention, ignorance, incompetence and stupidity!" - Anonymous
"Live to Ride, Ride to Live"
Alright then. I'll go the same speed as everyone and if I'm the only one I'll go 80..
Just seems so silly to go 80 in an area that is exactly as safe as the 100 zones.
(Some would say even safer, no cheese cutters.)
Do what ever speed you like. the road rules are geared to the lowest common denominator & in many cases that is a 44t B train not u on your all conquering sport bike
Ixion , mate, I have come down the bridge in the wet in one of those 44T behemoths & struck a traffic jam at the bottom & let me tell you I fair shit. 80 kph was too fast
I have also been riding in the wet on the southern motorway & hit traffic, next I hear the shuddering scary sound of a truck trying to stop before it shoves me into the middle of next week, I take to the grass in the centre of the m'way as he skids to a halt, all in an 80kph area, see it cuts both ways
We are not the only road users out there & the speed limits reflect that,
The speed limits like it or not take into account other road users beside yourself, ignore it cos you know you are safe , well thats fine by me, just don't snivel if you get a ticket
Also seen the arseholes set up a speed trap at the end of supposed roadworks, cars parked up, drivers walking, total bullshit
There's this bridge here in our town that has a temporary posted speed limit of 70km/hr posted on it that virtually everyone ignores. The reason the limit was imposed though, is because the bridge has been damaged by flooding and the Council don't want to replace the bridge any time soon. So they posted a lower speed limit than the 100km/hr limit so that the life of the bridge could be extended as far as possible. The bridge just happens to be on a curve in the road and I have seen Mr Plod park just beyond the curved bridge and do very nicely thank you pulling up all and sundry as they exceed the stated limit! So be warned!!
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With apologies here, but...
While I can see there is a distinct lack of shoulder available through there, a fair reason to drive/ride with caution agreed, the friggen traffic hardly ever in my experience reaches anything like 100kmph in normal circumstances, it is a congested bit of motorwayThe only ones likely to be able to exceed the open road limit would be us "BIKERS". The site is "safe" for the workers. I call OSH here and a tiny bit of $$$ collectiong too
Too true and a very sad comment! I am for the most part a very OTT abider of speed limitsbut some of these speed restrictions are pathetic!
Guess that depends on your perspective on life really. Taking risks is a spark in most of us that makes us, us! My pocket is too poor to pay for a speeding ticket in a clearly marked "speed restricted" road work area on an open road/motorway, that is a sitter for plod attentionYou do and get a ticket, let me be the first to laugh like hell!!!
Maybe, having to open the throttle to get passed a car with a wobbly wheel trim (or what ever excuse I can think of at the time officer) an unlikely acceptable excuse, 35 and a few $ to remind me to behavecan be lived with.
In my place of life, losing my license is not an option, being badly injured is not an option ( I have children, and a wonderful man I plan to spend many more years with), paying fines sucks! Time and place
Cruise past the annoying 80kmph signs life is too short for anything else.
When workers are on site ... the giveaway of workers on site, is big machines with flashing lights, people in bright daygo clothing, and students holding stop/go signs... which ...incidently...are legal and proper stop signs. Even if you think the way is clear for you to go through and the stop sign is still up.
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The speed limit is exactly that - A speed limit. If you go over the limit, you face the fines. Some lucky cop's gonna be getting a payrise if he sat in a roadworks area and clocked each vehicle exceeding the posted speed limit.
I slow down personally if it is the 80km sign.![]()
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All of you people that agree with the 80kph speed limit just need to go and drive through the section of road in question...
Completely agree with reducing the speed in actual roadworks.
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