Accident cause - discussion

[justsomeguy]

Perhaps. I think the analogy of a boil on the bum is apt...even when you can't see it, you know it's there and it still irritates the fuck out of you.

Give that man some bling.

[Katman]

Surely a few "best wishes" and a "poor bugger" are appropriate

Why? So you can feel better about going out next weekend and doing it all over again?

[Headbanger]

I liked it better when katmans dribble went straight into pd.....

[Mom]

Don't flatter yourself. This discussion isn't just for your benefit.

I would have quoted katman too, but he has finally decided that I am not worth it.

If you can get past the fact that you are so right and the rest of us dissenters are wrong for a moment, you would see the point I am trying to make here. You quote a message of mine, you refer in your reply to "your" and "you", it is addressed to me. Katman finds this sort of thing amusing but trust me I find it even more funny.

You lump all riders in the same broad, sweeping generalisations. It offends some, and most certainly turns anyone that may benefit from your wise words completely off your message.

Please can you, in your opinion of course, define me, the rider you are referring to when you post. Lets see just how close to the mark you are...

[Mom]

This thread was started about someone that had a nasty off on the Taka's, there is only Greyham, Guitana and myself who know who he is, and a resonable idea of what happened. Surely a few "best wishes" and a "poor bugger" are appropriate not a full on - lets guess about everything we know nothing about and while we are at it lets swing our handbags! grow up for fucks sake. The guy is a live and very lucky end of story, move on.

Good call, my apologies mate. Will see about getting this off topic stuff moved to another thread. Your mate seems to have been one lucky man, I am pleased you still have him around. I guess my contribution on this thread was in defense of him in a strange way...best wishes heading out to him and his family and friends

[dipshit]

You lump all riders in the same broad, sweeping generalisations. It offends some, and most certainly turns anyone that may benefit from your wise words completely off your message.

Come on you are missing the message here, weather conditions, particularly wind shear and road surface have nothing at all to do with coming off, it is all attitude Gospel according to Katman.

So why are you disagreeing with this then? Do you, or do you not think the attitude people approach riding with plays a very big important part?

[Katman]

You lump all riders in the same broad, sweeping generalisations.

In future, when I use the words "you" or "your" I'll follow it with "(except Mom)".

Happy?

[FJRider]

In future, when I use the words "you" or "your" I'll follow it with "(except Mom)".

Happy?

Words of one syllable ... or less ...... explains a lot...

[Grub]

Surely a few "best wishes" and a "poor bugger" are appropriate not a full on - lets guess about everything we know nothing about and while we are at it lets swing our handbags! grow up for fucks sake. .

Yeah, sorry about Katman ... he sits with his hand on his dick just waiting for the 'binned' threads. It's instantly predictable and really quite boring.

Best you do what the rest of us do, put him on ignore. All the best to your mate.

[ajturbo]

well.. i had a great ride to palmy and back over the hill today....
some tosser on a SV1000 over took me...(HE is a tosser, because i couldn't/didn't keep up..Yer i suck lol)

[CookMySock]

I don't do sympathy unless it's warranted.

You are very good at deciding whether something is warranted or not. In fact, your decision seems to be final. Does it not occur to you that others have opinions as well, and that they just consider them to be opinions rather than fact ?

DB

[Ixion]

This thread seems more than somewhat disconnected.

Very seldom is a crash due solely to just one cause. Though there may be a predominate cause.

Defensive and prudent riding will certainly not guarantee a crash free existence. Sometimes the Biker Gods (bastards that they are) just decide to piss on some poor soul.

But riding is a matter of probabilities. A cautious attititude is no guarantee of crash-virginity. The wisest most experienced most prudent most cautious most Nannaish rider may crash. Either because he made a mistake (as we all do sometimes) at the wrong time and place. Or because the Biker Gods pissed on him. But a cautious and wary attitude will certainly help push the odd in the right (ie non crash) direction. The probabilities are better

And, while there are many things that can cause a crash, most of them we can do little about. We can't change the laws of physics (well, not without a virgin mouse anyway, and the way those little floozies carry on there's no odds on that); we can't easily change the road surface; we can't change the weather. But we can change our attitudes. It costs nothing, and requires no specialised equipment . So it's the easiest place to start, isn't it?

[Mom]

well.. i had a great ride to palmy and back over the hill today....
some tosser on a SV1000 over took me...(HE is a tosser, because i couldn't/didn't keep up..Yer i suck lol)

We went to Puhoi for lunch with Busa Pete and his lovely lady, first fine weekend day we have had in months! We raced them home and won!

The fact we live 10 mins away and they live 20mins is irrelevant OK!

[avgas]

I ride to slow to crash.........ever since my accident.......

but according to the internet some people pay to get hurt - so i guess i can't judge.

[MIZXR]

I'm curious, how do you know your limits if you never push yourself and if you don't your limit how do you tell your riding at 7/10?

How do you learn to control yourself and your panic if never put in a situation that requires it until it's too late? - skid control course put you well outside personal limits so are they a Bad thing?

How do you know how had you can brake or lean if you never try, and as a result can't avoid the "unavoidable" accident.

Crashing can have a major bonus of teaching you that hitting the ground can be the less painfull of the options as opposed to driving into the drunk that pulled out from the side street.