U-turning cops - quite common

[NC]

You will get banned talkin' like that mate.

Banned? Whats that?

[TimeOut]

http://www.landtransport.govt.nz/roa...g-signals.html << Nothing in there about what the procedure is when the Police/Emergency vehicle is in front of you. I stand by my point that the onus should be on the Police car to indicate it's intentions in this instance.
You are totally correct regarding a Police car coming up behind you or heading towards you though. As the rules seem unclear on this point I would think there is even more reason for the cop to indicate to avoid confusion and possible ensuing accident. Especially in light of previous well publicised incidents.

Agreed.
So these cops should be done for careless use or at the very least failing to give way. I've had it happen and my son just about Tee boned one.

If you lay a complaint be prepared to be hassled for at least 6 months (had that happen) they'll pull you or your family over for a check (Tui anyone) every time they see you, at least in small town NZ they do.

[slimjim]

Agreed.

If you lay a complaint be prepared to be hassled for at least 6 months (had that happen) they'll pull you or your family over for a check (Tui anyone) every time they see you, at least in small town NZ they do.

not only a little town , they come acalling in big one too...
however Off to the watch house and really bitch ....
...yes badge number a must...

[Kiwi Graham:Me]

those red flashing lights often accompanied by a siren mean "stop or get the fuck out of the way and stay there until I'm gone"

same in any country i know of

How the hell can you stay out the way if you haven'yt got a fukin clue where he's going!
The initial post said he turned on his lights and pulled left then turned right into a 'U' turn! no indication of what his intensions were
To say we all around him have to grind to a halt while he figures out what he wants to do is ridiculous.
The little orange lights on each corner of his cage are there to 'indicate' his intension to manouver in addition to the big blue and red ones on his roof to indicate his presence.

[terbang]

BTW what ever became of that cop who caused those guys to crash in the buller gorge. Did he get done?

[Ixion]

those red flashing lights often accompanied by a siren mean "stop or get the fuck out of the way and stay there until I'm gone"

same in any country i know of

So how does that work at accidents scenes. The ones with lots of flashing lights. (red and blue). Where they constantly tell people NOT to slow down, let alone stop?

Or, if I am driving along the road and I see a cop car ahead, lights flashing, with another car pulled up in front of him. Common sense says "quota. Poor bugger. Keep driving". Should I instead stop , in case he should decide to pull a U turn in front of me without warning? I doubt that would be well receivd by the cop, especially on a busy road.

[RadioMan]

I think fire engines are limited in speed somewhat. I've passed one on the motorway which had its lights flashing, and I wasn't going very fast either. Didn't feel guilty one bit

Fire trucks have to obey speed limits. 110km/h on the open road and 70km/h in a 50 zone. Pass them if you are sure that you are not going to get in their way, but remember they could be turning the next corner and the indicators can be hard to see with all the other flashing lights going.
Also some older fire trucks are a bit slow and sometimes we just ain't in that much of a hurry, all depends what sort of job we are going to.

Trust me you see some of the worst driving when you are sitting in the front seat of a fire truck. It is a real education in just how little attention drivers pay to what is on the road around them, you would think they would see a big red truck with flashing lights and a siren - but no, they seem to have their eyes welded shut.

[RC1]

Fire trucks have to obey speed limits. 110km/h on the open road and 70km/h.

since when are these the speed limits

[MarkH]

since when are these the speed limits

I kinda presumed that RadioMan was saying that fire trucks have speed limits that they have to obey - speed limits specifically for them not the standard speed limits for general road users. Presumably because they are too big and heavy to travel at very high speeds without risking the lives of other road users.

[cs363]

I kinda presumed that RadioMan was saying that fire trucks have speed limits that they have to obey - speed limits specifically for them not the standard speed limits for general road users. Presumably because they are too big and heavy to travel at very high speeds without risking the lives of other road users.

Yep....something to do with the gazillion gallons of water in the back I'd suspect?

[Max Preload]

Trust me you see some of the worst driving when you are sitting in the front seat of a fire truck. It is a real education in just how little attention drivers pay to what is on the road around them, you would think they would see a big red truck with flashing lights and a siren - but no, they seem to have their eyes welded shut.

You should try riding a motorbike... that's an eye opener...

Convertable please... no blind spots... and major chick magnet!!!!

The soft tops don't carry the light bar too well - at speed it tends to fold back and smack the driver in the head.

[slimjim]

Yep....something to do with the gazillion gallons of water in the back I'd suspect?

Huh Thought they carried more pumps an hoses .... than ...... water....

or by seated in the front seat of the truck... he see some fucking stupid vehicles doing some fucking stupid things by its "DRIVER" .. Playnice: in front of the truck an its crew .....

an another point i don't quiet understand ..

why is it that when seeing the ...lights up ahead with victim ..

that the car has its hanging out over
half of the other cars bodyline... causing vehicles to be drive towards the centreline...an in cases cross a little bit onto the other lane


fuck surely the prick can pull in closer to the off roadway......Fuck Whats the lights For and surely the prick can stand with driver in front of the said vehicle...

fuck me .. and what they're trained...... ....

[Xman]

Huh Thought they carried more pumps an hoses .... than ...... water....

Nope. For sure they carry hoses and have a pump, but if you consider the weight and bulk, they certainly carry far more water.

why is it that when seeing the ...lights up ahead with victim ..

that the car has its hanging out over
half of the other cars bodyline... causing vehicles to be drive towards the centreline...an in cases cross a little bit onto the other lane


fuck surely the prick can pull in closer to the off roadway......Fuck Whats the lights For and surely the prick can stand with driver in front of the said vehicle...

fuck me .. and what they're trained...... ....

Perhaps the cop is wanting a car between himself and the oncoming unobservant jackass drivers as he approaches the other vehicle?
Or do you think he should just be open to someone driving into him from behind?
Get over it and drive/ride a little closer to the centreline for a few metres.

[Patrick]

Surely the advanced driver training ...

That would be nice... you get to drive like "Driving Aunt Daisy" around town with the instructor... get to go around some cones and then go to Manfield, where you get to drive around some more cones - not very realistic.... and that was 23 years ago...........................

Nowadays they do a simulated traffic stop and a simulated pursuit (at 50kmph of course) and some skid pan work (which is actually kinda useful....).

In my book, if a cop ahead of me were to throw his lights on it tells me he just pinged someone coming the other way (not in this case perhaps) and he is obviously gonna do a u turn, hell he may even fool the odd driver into thinking he's going to pull to the left (with lights on ?) when he gives himself the room to swing the uturn in one motion ! Me i'd be waiting for the u turn to happen, not speeding up to overtake him !
Get heart rate up a little did he lol and you don't do that to yrself on the bike ?

Logical... but logic is not a tool the common driver has in their arsenal.... Fair call about indicating and all, but if they can't see the red and blues strobing, they aint gonna see the orange blinkers......

........... for a proffesonal driver he should know better.

Yep, sure should... but mistakes can turn into habits....

iv tryed doing a complaint before, you give them the details but they dont really care, protecting there own, its just a waste of time.

Times have changed. Prosecute is the preferred option these days....

i know its a big game and cops like a chase,

All of this post was actually quite good, except for this little piece..... It aint a game and chases are shit. The paperwork alone makes it not worthwhile...

oh yer quit trawling at 80 kmph for your quota and stop holding traffic up too.
i know your not all bad, but i seldom see a good one.

Trawling at 80? Way too fast... the idea is to turn around as soon as poss... making sure nothing is on your arse when you do so. (Nothing ever behind me while "trawling...") Holding up traffic while trawling? That'll be a newbie....

there i feel better now. lol.

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Would there not be some form of extensive training to drive this point home when they are at Porirua?

See above......

The soft tops don't carry the light bar too well - at speed it tends to fold back and smack the driver in the head.

Shouldn't be shagging in the back seat while driving then....

an another point i don't quiet understand ..

why is it that when seeing the ...lights up ahead with victim ..

that the car has its hanging out over
half of the other cars bodyline... causing vehicles to be drive towards the centreline...an in cases cross a little bit onto the other lane


fuck surely the prick can pull in closer to the off roadway......Fuck Whats the lights For and surely the prick can stand with driver in front of the said vehicle...

fuck me .. and what they're trained...... ....

So the cop has some cover while at the drivers window (ie: standing on the roadway) from oncoming vehicles who either do not see the flashing lights or are keen on driving at him / her to give a fright - or worse....

Perhaps the cop is wanting a car between himself and the oncoming unobservant jackass drivers as he approaches the other vehicle?
Or do you think he should just be open to someone driving into him from behind?
Get over it and drive/ride a little closer to the centreline for a few metres.

Beat me to it Xman.

[scumdog]

That would be nice... you get to drive like "Driving Aunt Daisy" around town with the instructor... get to go around some cones and then go to Manfield, where you get to drive around some more cones - not very realistic.... and that was 23 years ago...........................

Nowadays they do a simulated traffic stop and a simulated pursuit (at 50kmph of course) and some skid pan work (which is actually kinda useful....)

Hmm, failed the driving test first time - it was a wet day and I was drifting the car around the bends and through the cones waaaay too much, it seems that is NOT the way to do it.

Passed second time easily - 'cos I drove like a nana.