Crappy cornering technique

[Big Dave]

Sometimes when I am coasting down Stuart street, I will let go of the bars and sit up and let gravity take over...

I find it very difficult to just lean to steer the bike, including applying pressure on the pegs etc... actually its just about non exsistant...

Some need big buttock action. Sad but true. I weigh 125kg.

[AlBundy]

stop trying to split hairs.

Have you read the whole debate?

If so, stop and think about what we are discussing.

[The Stranger:Me]

Have you read the whole debate?

If so, stop and think about what we are discussing.

I have read it, but wouldn't go so far as to call your frothing at the mouth debate.

[AlBundy]

I have read it, but wouldn't go so far as to call your frothing at the mouth debate.

Who's frothing at the mouth?

I'm actually quite amused by the whole discussion...

But since you've appeared, Mr. Mentor, could you please enlighten us with your thoughts on the subject. Seeing as you are teaching and advising the up and coming bikers.

[Big Dave]

I think what helped me with the megamoto was also the way its best ever ergos allowed full body movement and great ability to shift balance.

I can't ride a sports bike fast. Can't do it. Mainly because I'm so folded up I can only really countersteer efficiently.



PS - I got no problems with demeanor - I feigned a hissy fit earlier - but it was pretend.

[AlBundy]

I think what helped me with the megamoto was also the way its best ever ergos allowed full body movement and great ability to shift balance.

I can't ride a sports bike fast. Can't do it. Mainly because I'm so folded up I can only really countersteer efficiently.



PS - I got no problems with demeanor - I feigned a hissy fit earlier - but it was pretend.

Nice plug for the BMW... They are nice machines...

[AlBundy]

I think I know what I'm doing wrong....

I'm not using smilies... Maybe I should, coz then nothing will be misconstrued as frothing at the mouth....

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...

[The Stranger:Me]

But since you've appeared, Mr. Mentor, could you please enlighten us with your thoughts on the subject.

Certainly.
If one is to debate one should clearly articulate what subject they are debating so as to avoid the current situation where both are correct but arguing about different subjects.

[The Stranger:Me]

I think I know what I'm doing wrong....

I'm not using smilies... Maybe I should, coz then nothing will be misconstrued as frothing at the mouth....

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...

Smilies are completely unnecessary.
Be a man, just say it and if no one likes it stiff shit.

[Headbanger]

Now shes worthy of full blown counter-steering thread status.

[Big Dave]

Nice plug for the BMW... They are nice machines...

Still favourite for my Bike of the year.

A bit more year to go yet naturally, but i'm working on November copy now.

[AlBundy]

Certainly.
If one is to debate one should clearly articulate what subject they are debating so as to avoid the current situation where both are correct but arguing about different subjects.

Well, if we are discussing effective steering techniques, I'd hardly consider riding down a road and using body weight and shifting around the bike, without touching the bars, as one of them...

As stated before, riding down the road no-hands, it is quite obvious there is not even close to the same control as when there's bar pressure applied. Sure, the bike 'steers' but it's only to correct itself for balance... And sometimes it needs quite a lot of pressure for it to do so.

By leaning, counter leaning, getting off, looking where you go, they all influence ones pressure on the bars to some extent... Whether people are aware of it or not...

And 'counter' in itself implies an opposite input required to get a result. If one is not applying bar pressure, where is the counter input coming from?

And just for clarification, I believe we are talking normal road riding speeds, as opposed to balancing a trials bike or very slow manuevering...

[The Stranger:Me]

Well, if we are discussing effective steering techniques, I'd hardly consider riding down a road and using body weight and shifting around the bike, without touching the bars, as one of them...

As stated before, riding down the road no-hands, it is quite obvious there is not even close to the same control as when there's bar pressure applied. Sure, the bike 'steers' but it's only to correct itself for balance... And sometimes it needs quite a lot of pressure for it to do so.

By leaning, counter leaning, getting off, looking where you go, they all influence ones pressure on the bars to some extent... Whether people are aware of it or not...

And 'counter' in itself implies an opposite input required to get a result. If one is not applying bar pressure, where is the counter input coming from?

And just for clarification, I believe we are talking normal road riding speeds, as opposed to balancing a trials bike or very slow manuevering...

Yep!
Still looks like froth to me.

[Big Dave]

lol - Sadly the vespa pictures are downloaded and I have to return to real work

[AlBundy]

Yep!
Still looks like froth to me.

Well, I'm going to disregard anything you say, since you haven't actually added anything to the debate, except to comment and critic....

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....