Correct!Originally Posted by Tank
Also, do not forget to put some scrunched-up tinfoil into the lining of your helmet, as this confuses the radar signal.
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Correct!
Also, do not forget to put some scrunched-up tinfoil into the lining of your helmet, as this confuses the radar signal.
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The mount for my Bel RX65 as per the attached photos cost me the princely sum of $32 for a set of needle files (to make the little slot that the detector mounting mechanism clips into), and a couple of hours dicking around with a scrap of stainless sheet. Looking out through the tinted fairing visor doesn't seem to cause any problems and the position protects the unit from weather and insect strike without the need for one of the commercially available covers, which have the look and quality of a Chinese takeaway tray at a ridiculous price.
Still working on a wireless link to helmet audio, combined with indicator linked LEDs, to complete the set-up.
5,500 kms over two trips by car in Jan & Feb from the Bay of Islands to Balclutha (doing the tour guide thing and delivering kids to varsity) saw the detector pay for itself at least twice over.
From experience with this and previous detectors they are NOT a ticket to go like a lunatic but rather will give you warning enough to scrub 15-25 kmh off your speed dependant on your reaction time (i.e. brake NOW), your experience in interpretting various warnings, the quality of the detector (false alarms) and the particular situation (long straight, instant-on radar traps, etc.).
Also a forward facing detector will successfully 'see' radar sources from your rear (i.e. following car or rear facing radar unit in car going the opposite direction) from reflections off of objects / vehicles ahead of you.
There has been warnings that radar detectors are going to be outlawed here in NZ and have heard that some detectors transmit their own detect signal which is itself detectable. In theory the Belltronics units are one of the least detectable detectors, or here's hoping. Feel welcome to correct me on this last bit if you know better.
Last edited by Naki Rat; 23rd September 2008 at 13:44. Reason: sp.
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This also stops the aliens from monitoring your thought patterns
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The STi is completely undetectable. Reviewers have sat the unit on the dash alongside a detector-detector unit... nothing detected!
(Nice mounting system BTW!)
I think you are confusing this with the Tinfoil Hat.This also stops the aliens from monitoring your thought patterns
Thought patterns and radar signals are different...
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Double shot!!
Most, if not all recievers mix the incoming radio signal with a local signal, called the "local oscillator". Some of this local oscillator energy escapes back OUT the detectors antenna and this can easily be sensed by the "detector detector."
Not quite. The STi has the local oscillator moved to an unusual frequency, where the detector-detector does not expect it. Thats all.
To make detectors undetectable, they need a much much more expensive antenna/mixer/local oscillator combination (called the front end) with filters and circulators - outside the scope of simple consumer device, unless you build it yourself from surplus bits. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circulator
Steve
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So, at the moment it is undetectable.
We enter into another race of countermeasures and counter-countermeasures...
It keeps the companies in business I guess.
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Double shot!!
THAT is awesome. Much simpler than all the other commercial ones. I'm a gunna make one!
I'm gunna mount some super-bright LEDs around my dash area, instead of the helmet stuff. It's as bright as a high-level brake light (actually it IS a high-level brake light - broken plastic case, remounted, from the wreckers, zero bux), so if that cant get my attention then something is wrong elsewhere.
Steve
"I am a licenced motorcycle instructor, I agree with dangerousbastard, no point in repeating what he said."
"read what Steve says. He's right."
"What Steve said pretty much summed it up."
"I did axactly as you said and it worked...!!"
"Wow, Great advise there DB."
WTB: Hyosung bikes or going or not.
Hardcore Biker
On my last 4 bikes I have just used the $1 velcro solution - i.e. velcro on the bottom of the detector and on a flat surface behind the fairing on one side (might not work so well on nakeds or cruisiers).
It's simple and quick - your solution looks good if you want to see the detector screen though!
Trust me, don't do it. Just get a pair of headphone extension cables - one to go from the detector to near your seat, and one to go in the lining of your jacket. Then with a pair of speakers in your helmet, when you get on you just need to plug in 2 plugs, takes an extra say 7 seconds.
I have experimented with wireless solutions and personally, I'd rather spend the extra few secs plugging in and KNOW that the detector will make noise that I can hear rather than worry bout interference, batteries etc.
I came across a copper sitting on the side of the road 5 mins from my place on Scenic Drive up in Auckland earlier this year. He was radar checking people on a particular section of that lovely road, so I went past a few times to check the range and so on that I could detect him at (was in the cage) then went home and got the bike and mrs pillion, and went out again to see what the difference was in detection.
Well, I learned several interesting things that day - because I stopped to have a chat with the dude.
I learned that the bike mounting detected better than the car (i.e. from further away), the cop had no idea what he could ticket me for in terms of using him as a test bed by going past as many times as I felt like, he knew of the use of radar detector detectors by the police in other countries but had never even seen one in NZ, and finally neither him nor his partner had heard anything at all about detectors being made illegal.
Scooter boy
Cool mount Naki Rat.
I phoned a few places today asking about detectors - apparently the mounts are $180-$200 which seems a little steep. Also they seem a little dangerous to me - having a piece of metal at about chest height wouldn't be good if you hit something front on.
Allun: Where have you velcroed your detector? On top of the tank? Any chance of some pictures?
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I velcro'd mine on the SV on the flat bit of the nose fairing , the bit just under your forearm when riding. Bit of velcro on the radar bottom, another bit on the fairing (it'll all peel off without marks when I sell), and then I wrap another long velcro strap right round the fairing and detector.
Thing to watch is you want the detector to have a view ahead without any metal (eg fairing mounting brackets) in the way .
Hardcore Biker
According to The Minister of Police and Min. of Transport it is coming.
Proposals were announced 21/12/07 to be implemented over 2008-2010
Yr one $50 + 25 demerit
Yr two $100 +50 demerits
Yr three ...figured out the plot yet?
See the pdf below. Or open 'Dec 2007' from link if the attached doesn't work
http://www.safeas.govt.nz/safeas-about.html
http://www.safeas.govt.nz/Road%20Saf...Dec%202007.pdf
edit- You have to tie a rap music CD to the front of your bike - that will repel EVERTHING for miles
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Hardcore Biker
absolutely!
yup....another good point
I might just happen to have some somewhere.... :-)
The detector has been in a similar place for my CBR600RR, SV1000S and VFR800.
Last edited by notme; 23rd September 2008 at 17:37. Reason: Added more pix
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I've also done this with my detector. Velcro'd it on top of the speedo and put a bit of rubber matting on the fairing where it rubs. Works a treat and grabs my attention when it flashes - handy having it so close to the speedo too!
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THAT is awesome. Much simpler than all the other commercial ones. I'm a gunna make one!
I'm gunna mount some super-bright LEDs around my dash area, instead of the helmet stuff. It's as bright as a high-level brake light (actually it IS a high-level brake light - broken plastic case, remounted, from the wreckers, zero bux), so if that cant get my attention then something is wrong elsewhere.
Steve
I had one similar to this initial model http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/at...7&d=1112077013
Moved it to the right so I could actually see the speedo, was on my CBR250rr so if you see it run it over as it was stolen!
And this one on another bike http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/at...8&d=1112077125
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I used 1 or 1.2 mm thick (can't remember for sure) SS sheet which is solid enough but still fits in the mounting slot. Make a cardboard pattern, or 2, until you get it right then jigsaw, drill and file to your heart's content. Use the windscreen mounting bracket's 'tongue' to get the locking slot position right. Fine tune for forward facing by bending a bit. Easy
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