Wheelie question

[R6_kid:Me]

hehe... I see you've cropped the supporting wires out!

[AlBundy]

And a very poor example set from a senior poster....

Wheelies are dangerous and irresponsible.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA....

[ital916]

Perhaps he wasn't listening at RRRS when they talked about the rear brake helping to settle the bike.

Also the fact that most linked brake systems only work one way - i.e back brake does rear wheel only, but the 'front' brake does both wheels.

COs I was reading up on the blackbird, an article said front brake applies all of the front and two rear pots *or summit like that* and the rear applies all the rear and a little of the front. Seems like a good idea unless you riding style doesn't suit using the rear brake. I listened at RRRS thank you very much, I improved lots. I wasn't a dickhead on the course, pulled no stunts or did anything stupid.

[ital916]

Why is that?

If your riding style doesn't use rear brakes or to keep up speed, nothing ventured, nothing gained. Feel free to add more using you instructor wisdom.

[The Stranger:Me]

If your riding style doesn't use rear brakes or to keep up speed, nothing ventured, nothing gained.

You will very rarely (if ever) find a Blackbird owner dissing the linked brakes.
You will note it is usually the press, who don't really get to live with them, that will display some disatisfaction with them.
Lee Parkes in his book Total Control notes that they have been used with success in racing (same system as is used on the VFRs)
Reality - they are excellent.

When you apply the front, as the rear is applied at the same time, the rear tends to squat a little and the bike stays quite flat under heavy braking as a result. The brakes are certainly very effective.

The Blackbird responds very well to trail braking into corners too, more so than any other bike I have ridden.

In my experience - they are no impediment at all on a twisty road - more the opposite as far as I am concerned.

[ital916]

You will very rarely (if ever) find a Blackbird owner dissing the linked brakes.
You will note it is usually the press, who don't really get to live with them, that will display some disatisfaction with them.
Lee Parkes in his book Total Control notes that they have been used with success in racing (same system as is used on the VFRs)
Reality - they are excellent.

When you apply the front, as the rear is applied at the same time, the rear tends to squat a little and the bike stays quite flat under heavy braking as a result. The brakes are certainly very effective.

The Blackbird responds very well to trail braking into corners too, more so than any other bike I have ridden.

In my experience - they are no impediment at all on a twisty road - more the opposite as far as I am concerned.

Brilliant, a concise and well worded answer. Yeah from all the stuff I read the press really hates them. Now to go and continue my daydreams of my dream bike.

[The Stranger:Me]

Brilliant, a concise and well worded answer. Yeah from all the stuff I read the press really hates them. Now to go and continue my daydreams of my dream bike.

Yeah, now check out the owners and see how many hate them.
Most are quite rabid in their support of the bike in general and I think it fair to say that more than usual, the owners tend to keep them for long periods.
Also interesting to note that they were released in 97 and are unchanged (with the exception of FI and smog gear). If something is seriously fucked up how come they continue to sell?

[ital916]

Yeah, now check out the owners and see how many hate them.
Most are quite rabid in their support of the bike in general and I think it fair to say that more than usual, the owners tend to keep them for long periods.
Also interesting to note that they were released in 97 and are unchanged (with the exception of FI and smog gear). If something is seriously fucked up how come they continue to sell?

Oops I meant the pres love them but hate the braking system. My bad . But the testing system now mainly consists of magazines floggin them on the track. I personally love the ol bb....one day I shall have one.

[Static]

You will very rarely (if ever) find a Blackbird owner dissing the linked brakes.
You will note it is usually the press, who don't really get to live with them, that will display some disatisfaction with them.
Lee Parkes in his book Total Control notes that they have been used with success in racing (same system as is used on the VFRs)
Reality - they are excellent.

When you apply the front, as the rear is applied at the same time, the rear tends to squat a little and the bike stays quite flat under heavy braking as a result. The brakes are certainly very effective.

The Blackbird responds very well to trail braking into corners too, more so than any other bike I have ridden.

In my experience - they are no impediment at all on a twisty road - more the opposite as far as I am concerned.

Id second this i own an 08 VFR800 and they still surprise me how much of a difference they make. admittedly im still a bit apprehensive about what difference they will make for stunting and its hard to stoppie cuz the bike stops so quickly lol but they are by no means an impediment when flogging it through twistys

[skidMark]

Why is that?

would make backing the rear in interesting..... and you can only reallllly use rear brake on gravel roads..... if its applying the front too.... ummmmmm

[Morcs]

Hey guys

Have been surfing kb for like four hours straight now *I'm on ordered bed rest due to respiratory problems...not cos I'm a geek haha* and just had a question..about wheelies. I know they are not big nor clever, but hypothetically if you were pulling one on a private road, on two different bikes. One with independant brakes and one with linked brakes, would it make a difference?

The independant brakes one you can cover the rear and apply only the rear, but with the linked brakes bike, if you apply the rear some of the front pots will activate as well. And I am guessing front brakes applied when landing a big wheelie = bad?? *I've never really tried pulling big uns, just accidental little wheelies when a bit raw with the clutch*

Just wondering, anyone had any interesting experiences with link brakes, I hear they are excellent in the wet.

Why do you need brakes to wheelie?
Why do you need clutch to wheelie?

Unless ya doing 30kph 12o'clocks that is...

[scracha]

Why do you need brakes to wheelie?
Why do you need clutch to wheelie?

Unless ya doing 30kph 12o'clocks that is...

umm..every fule kno' clutch wheelies are much smoother and easier on the bike.

[Morcs]

umm..every fule kno' clutch wheelies are much smoother and easier on the bike.

Ah but it takes more precise throttle control to do good power wheelies.
Once ya got clutch wheelies sussed, they are no longer as much fun.

Gotta love the feeling of going over backwards...

[westie]

Brakes?
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