Lane splitting at motorway on-ramps with lights?

[UberRhys]

you guys think too much, worry about it if you get pulled over.

Agreed.

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[slimjim]

Agreed.

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yup wait til it happen's, then despute it

[BevanPT]

From the Transit website.

What is an HOV lane and who can use them?
The �High Occupancy Vehicle� lane is a priority lane to give high occupancy vehicles (HOVs � two or more people per car), trucks and buses faster access to the motorway.

Car-pool vehicles (two or more people per car) can use this lane to bypass the signals. The benefit of the lane is to move more people rather than more cars.

The priority lane for trucks, buses and car-pool vehicles will be operating soon at the Mt Wellington and South Eastern Highway northbound on-ramps. Motorcycles can also use the priority lanes, except at Grafton Road southbound on-ramp which is a trucks only priority lane.

[BevanPT]

From the Transit website.

What is an HOV lane and who can use them?
The �High Occupancy Vehicle� lane is a priority lane to give high occupancy vehicles (HOVs � two or more people per car), trucks and buses faster access to the motorway.

Car-pool vehicles (two or more people per car) can use this lane to bypass the signals. The benefit of the lane is to move more people rather than more cars.

The priority lane for trucks, buses and car-pool vehicles will be operating soon at the Mt Wellington and South Eastern Highway northbound on-ramps. Motorcycles can also use the priority lanes, except at Grafton Road southbound on-ramp which is a trucks only priority lane.

[madbikeboy]

But of course. Nevertheless I'm sure they still count as `proper' reds -- hence a beating with a nightstick if you get caught I suppose.

I go through there all the time when I catch up with Miss Xwhatsit. At night, it doesn't matter how quickly you zip through there, if there's no vehicle to trigger the lights, it won't go green.

Apart from that, it could've been me. I'm an inexperienced rider, wearing normal jeans just to piss off MBB. Almost got nailed by a u-turner on Symonds St Monday too

I have nothing but lov n' rspct for you xwhatsit, each person decides their own approach to destiny.

[madbikeboy]

Now now Xerxesmawhatchamacallit, there's a difference between "slow" and "inexperienced".

"Slow" is what I am. The other day, I was riding up Parnell rise, and riding my humble scoot which has real difficulty keeping up with modern traffic and hills, when a little old lady in a zimmer frame shuffles alongside me and hits me with her cane. I was outraged, but she had a point, I was in her way and slowing her down, and she did have less time to live than me (god willing)...

[UberRhys]

Now now Xerxesmawhatchamacallit, there's a difference between "slow" and "inexperienced".

"Slow" is what I am. The other day, I was riding up Parnell rise, and riding my humble scoot which has real difficulty keeping up with modern traffic and hills, when a little old lady in a zimmer frame shuffles alongside me and hits me with her cane. I was outraged, but she had a point, I was in her way and slowing her down, and she did have less time to live than me (god willing)...

Hahaha... you got thwacked by a gran with her cane from the reach of her zimmer frame.

Did your manhood shrink any?

[Ixion]

Hmmm will be using that onramp tomo evening, I'll have a good look to see if it says "truck only" like the "bus only" lanes on the motorway, or if it says "truck lane" like the "bus lanes" in the suburbs. Truck only would therefore follow along the lines of the motorway bus only lanes and be illegal for other auto use.

Not quite. The motorway "bus lanes" are legally speaking , the emergency stopping shoulder. The law says (can't be arsed looking up where) that it is an offence to stop on the emergency stopping shoulder , except in , duh, and emergency. Transit, with doubtful legality, but the connivance of the cops, used their bylaw regulatory power to 'exempt' buses from that law , under certain conditions.

The 'truck' lane, though , however it be signed, is another matter, and largely unknown to law. It is not an emergency shoulder. So Transit's ability to restrict it is dubious

[discotex]

As for Bus lanes etc. On the Shore, you're not allowed to use them. But I use them anyhow because being physically seperated from cars means I live longer (so fuck the consequences). Occasionally I get a telling off from the cops, but if you're polite and rational about why and wherefore, they normally tell you stop doing it and little else.

Which bus lanes? You're fully allowed to use the T3 bus lanes just not the "bus only" lanes.

Not sure why they have a distinction... Guess the "bus only" lanes are classed as feeders for the busway or something.

[marty]

my mate got done for lane spliting on my bike while he was going on to the motorway in town, the cop was parked up taking bike plates all right through rush hour... bastard

let's see it then!

[Ragingrob]

Not quite. The motorway "bus lanes" are legally speaking , the emergency stopping shoulder. The law says (can't be arsed looking up where) that it is an offence to stop on the emergency stopping shoulder , except in , duh, and emergency. Transit, with doubtful legality, but the connivance of the cops, used their bylaw regulatory power to 'exempt' buses from that law , under certain conditions.

The 'truck' lane, though , however it be signed, is another matter, and largely unknown to law. It is not an emergency shoulder. So Transit's ability to restrict it is dubious

I remember reading a thread where the consensus was if it's a 'bus lane' i.e. in town then it's not specifically excluding bikes and therefore legal, whereas the motorway signs say 'buses only', excluding everything else.

Cruised down the onramp this evening after my exam and all the signs say is 'truck lane', therefore they're not saying I can't use it, so I did. Lol.

[xwhatsit]

Cruised down the onramp this evening after my exam and all the signs say is 'truck lane', therefore they're not saying I can't use it, so I did. Lol.

You mean the Grafton one? I did a masterful piece of cop-baiting a few months ago; carrying a pillion on a 250cc motorcycle up that truck lane past a cop-car and I didn't catch anything! I do head up there most days though, past cops of two wheels and four, and I haven't been pinged yet so I'm assuming that while it may not be completely white, it is a shade of fairly lightish grey. I suppose from a policeman's point of view it's hardly the crime of the century, doesn't even look remotely dangerous like lanesplitting appears.

[madbikeboy]

Hahaha... you got thwacked by a gran with her cane from the reach of her zimmer frame.

Did your manhood shrink any?

Well, given that I have the testicular fortitude to ride a GSXR1000, even a little shrinkage would go un-noticed, and to be honest, that might lessen the gravitational pull that I seem to evoke with balls the size of small moons. Further, since I have my willy wrapped twice around my waist, people keep telling me I'm fat.

You just can't win...

[madbikeboy]

Which bus lanes? You're fully allowed to use the T3 bus lanes just not the "bus only" lanes.

Not sure why they have a distinction... Guess the "bus only" lanes are classed as feeders for the busway or something.

Yeah, in town, and in the civilised parts of Auckland. But on the Norf Shaw, it's different. Each council determines rules around roading in their district in regards to things like bus lanes (something called delegated legislation). Moreover, on the shore, those with the say refused usage of the nice new racetrack (I mean buslanes) to motorcycles on the grounds that nice wide open bus lanes with barriers separating cars from bikes would present unreasonable safety concerns... WTF?

On another note, the local councils effectively pay the police to police the roads, and in return the police delivers a specific volume of dollars based on targeted areas of infringements. Does that read like a quota to anyone else??

[madbikeboy]

You mean the Grafton one? I did a masterful piece of cop-baiting a few months ago; carrying a pillion on a 250cc motorcycle up that truck lane past a cop-car and I didn't catch anything! I do head up there most days though, past cops of two wheels and four, and I haven't been pinged yet so I'm assuming that while it may not be completely white, it is a shade of fairly lightish grey. I suppose from a policeman's point of view it's hardly the crime of the century, doesn't even look remotely dangerous like lanesplitting appears.

White (album)
Lighter shades of gray.
Crime of the century.

I must be stoned, but are these all song and album references that form some sort of secret code, that once cracked, will lead me to fame, fortune, sex with hot groupies, and unfathomable success on the racetrack???