One point about group (or pack) riding that is often overlooked is that every rider (except TEC) must ride with an eye both to the rider in front of him (obviously) , but also to the rider behind him.
If this is done , much of the disquiet expressed is obviated. For instance, if one is in the habit of braking late in corners (as I do), and one observes the rider behind being "caught out" by this, it is simple and courteous to flick the brake lever for a moment at the "slowing down" point, even if one does not actually brake then.
Similaly if the rider behind is having trouble keeping up (falling back in corners, and trying to catch up on straights), it is simple enough to slow down a bit through the corners.
Riding in groups does require discipline, and courtesy. That is no bad thing, indeed , IMHO , it is a valuable thing. It also requires a rider to maintain a 360 degree situational awareness. Again, no bad thing to be required to practice.
Of course a group race is another matter, and I suspect much of the bad reputation of group rides springs from this: that many of them are in fact races.
Originally Posted by skidmark
Originally Posted by Phil Vincent
And I can say the opposite with equal conviction. Which really does point out the futility of attempting to argue an opinion on an Internet forum. Judicious or not, I've almost given up on the "Cruisy" Wednesday ride, let alone the Thursday Sprint Race and Stunting double feature. The Sunday morning quiet rides were a good way to travel 2 kilometers from a Gas station and then have to ring for a trailer or van to remove some wreckage.
With only a couple of exceptions, the people I spend time on the road with do not participate on KB.
I loathe group rides. They infringe on the basic human right to travel unmolested to your destination.
If a man is alone in the woods and there isn't a woke Hollywood around to call him racist, is he still white?
Thank´s G.., most of the time i ride alone.
Arrowolf
I was not racing you!
I was assessing your lines and brakng points.
And you wern't cruising, dude...
Anyway, all this is way complicated. Default standard should be "can any bastard tag me from here?", with minor deviations based on "Can I trust this bastard"? For the older amongst us that answer is more often "No, the bastard will cut me up".
BTW, does the "close quotes" come afore or after the question mark?
Go soothingly on the grease mud, as there lurks the skid demon
Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?
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