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    Quote Originally Posted by AlBundy View Post
    Sorry dude.

    The point I was trying to make, is Katman will find ANY thread to preach the dangers, yet, he's virtually said nothing about that sort of riding. It's more about his double standard than what you said.
    I wasn't referring to me !
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    One point about group (or pack) riding that is often overlooked is that every rider (except TEC) must ride with an eye both to the rider in front of him (obviously) , but also to the rider behind him.

    If this is done , much of the disquiet expressed is obviated. For instance, if one is in the habit of braking late in corners (as I do), and one observes the rider behind being "caught out" by this, it is simple and courteous to flick the brake lever for a moment at the "slowing down" point, even if one does not actually brake then.

    Similaly if the rider behind is having trouble keeping up (falling back in corners, and trying to catch up on straights), it is simple enough to slow down a bit through the corners.

    Riding in groups does require discipline, and courtesy. That is no bad thing, indeed , IMHO , it is a valuable thing. It also requires a rider to maintain a 360 degree situational awareness. Again, no bad thing to be required to practice.

    Of course a group race is another matter, and I suspect much of the bad reputation of group rides springs from this: that many of them are in fact races.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlBundy View Post
    It's more about his double standard than what you said.
    If you can point out any "double standards" (from me) on display in this thread, I'll STFU for good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ixion View Post
    that many of them are in fact races.
    All KB groups rides end up races. Without exception.
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    Quote Originally Posted by James Deuce View Post
    All KB groups rides end up races. Without exception.
    No, I can say from personal experience that that is incorrect. It is necessary however to be judicious in ones selection.
    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark
    This world has lost it's drive, everybody just wants to fit in the be the norm as it were.
    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Vincent
    The manufacturers go to a lot of trouble to find out what the average rider prefers, because the maker who guesses closest to the average preference gets the largest sales. But the average rider is mainly interested in silly (as opposed to useful) “goodies” to try to kid the public that he is riding a racer

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    Quote Originally Posted by James Deuce View Post
    All KB groups rides end up races. Without exception.
    Ya ain't ridden much down here then eh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ixion View Post
    No, I can say from personal experience that that is incorrect. It is necessary however to be judicious in ones selection.
    And I can say the opposite with equal conviction. Which really does point out the futility of attempting to argue an opinion on an Internet forum. Judicious or not, I've almost given up on the "Cruisy" Wednesday ride, let alone the Thursday Sprint Race and Stunting double feature. The Sunday morning quiet rides were a good way to travel 2 kilometers from a Gas station and then have to ring for a trailer or van to remove some wreckage.

    With only a couple of exceptions, the people I spend time on the road with do not participate on KB.

    I loathe group rides. They infringe on the basic human right to travel unmolested to your destination.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ixion View Post
    No, I can say from personal experience that that is incorrect. It is necessary however to be judicious in ones selection.
    Some of the rides...all the time.
    All of the rides...some of the time.
    But never all of the rides, all of the time.
    And almost never on the rides I'm involved in.
    Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?

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    Thank´s G.., most of the time i ride alone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by James Deuce View Post
    All KB groups rides end up races. Without exception.
    I was not racing you!

    I was assessing your lines and brakng points.

    Quote Originally Posted by James Deuce View Post
    I've almost given up on the "Cruisy" Wednesday ride, let alone the Thursday Sprint Race and Stunting double feature.
    And you wern't cruising, dude...

    Anyway, all this is way complicated. Default standard should be "can any bastard tag me from here?", with minor deviations based on "Can I trust this bastard"? For the older amongst us that answer is more often "No, the bastard will cut me up".

    BTW, does the "close quotes" come afore or after the question mark?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post

    Anyway, all this is way complicated. Default standard should be "can any bastard tag me from here?", with minor deviations based on "Can I trust this bastard"? For the older amongst us that answer is more often "No, the bastard will cut me up".

    BTW, does the "close quotes" come afore or after the question mark?
    The BDOTGNZA would like to state for the record that if the encapsulated 'statement' is a question in its own right, then ? comes before closing the quote.
    However the first letter of the first word should normally be a capital...
    Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by James Deuce View Post
    All KB groups rides end up races. Without exception.
    Please join us for a ride in the lovely HB. I'm sure we can change your perception of group rides?
    Go on, you know you want to
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    Quote Originally Posted by yungatart View Post
    Please join us for a ride in the lovely HB. I'm sure we can change your perception of group rides?
    Go on, you know you want to
    She's just saying that because she wants to race you
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kickaha View Post
    She's just saying that because she wants to race you
    Me??? Race???

    You've got me mixed up with someone who can actually ride, rather than drop it at the bottom of the driveway
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    Quote Originally Posted by James Deuce View Post
    And I can say the opposite with equal conviction. Which really does point out the futility of attempting to argue an opinion on an Internet forum.
    You know what the real problem is?

    Most Wellington bikers are complete twats.

    (I don't mean you, Jim.)

    It really is a localised epidemic. The prevailing attitude throughout the rest of the country is quite different.
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