Riding in groups - Some of you have no idea!

[98tls]

Yeah. It's all my fault. That's the problem with discussing different groups of riders, from different parts of the country on an Internet forum. Your experience of KB rides is obviously vastly different to mine. I enjoy riding with Mike Angell and his wife, along with Mooch and his wife. Predictable and skilled, completely unlike the rest of the Wellington KB crowd.

I've been overtaken on both sides on the way into a corner by kbers on a Wednesday "Cruisy" ride. I'm not supposed to complain about it though. I'm a pussy apparently. I went on a couple of the Thursday rides a few years ago. Not my cup of tea.

Of all the KB rides I've been on there are 4 that didn't involve crashes, at least that I was aware of.

One of my biggest bugbears is acouple of the guys who are apparently regarded as good riders who insist on traveling 3cms off your rear tyre. If you ask them to politely desist you get a lecture that either revolves around racing or the length of time they've been riding, as if that makes them immune to the vagaries of riding on the road.

Yep i hear that,sadly there "a couple of guys" who are yet to learn a painful lesson,saddest part is there more than likely to fuck up someone elses day when they do.

[Lissa]

I havent read the whole thread as I dont have the time, but would like to give my thoughts on Riding in Groups, namely KB groups as they are the only ones I have been on.

To me biking is something I enjoy as long as I cruise at my own pace, enjoy the scenery and not having to worry if I am holding someone up. I have no interest in speeding, or to corner as fast as I can, or get my knee down - this is not enjoyment to me.

I have been on rides were I have been over taken sometimes by a number of people all at once, even though I was going the road limit. I am not blaming these people, it was my fault, I was the one who decided to go on a ride with people with faster bikes and strangers.

I dont like being over taken by large groups, especially when it is done so fast I had no idea it was about to happen and especially on corners, or in places that I think put me at risk as well. I am not an inexperienced rider, I have complete faith in my own riding ability, it is other people that I do not have faith in. Maybe I am being a baby, but after having two friends die on Group Rides, I really dont want to do another big group ride again. I will continue to just ride with my friends.

[NighthawkNZ:Me]

One of my biggest bugbears is acouple of the guys who are apparently regarded as good riders who insist on traveling 3cms off your rear tyre. If you ask them to politely desist you get a lecture that either revolves around racing or the length of time they've been riding, as if that makes them immune to the vagaries of riding on the road.

Ok I agree with you here, thats bad, if they did that to me and continued... I would give them a slap and then simply not ride with wankers like that...

Racing theories and road theories are two different things... what is good for the race track can be deadly for the road... and they need to be reminded they are not on a track, and the need to pull their wooly heads in...

[AlBundy]

If you can point out any "double standards" (from me) on display in this thread, I'll STFU for good.

It's not what you've said. It's what you've not said...

[Katman]

Fuck me, so now I get in trouble for opening my mouth and for keeping it shut.

[Ixion]

It doesn't say it anywhere because it says it everywhere !

[AlBundy]

Fuck me, so now I get in trouble for opening my mouth and for keeping it shut.

Yeah but it's where you are constantly harping on that's the point.

Suddenly there's a blatant dangerous mentality posted here and you say nothing....

If you're gonna be a safety nazi, at least be consitent...

[Katman]

Yeah but it's where you are constantly harping on that's the point.

Suddenly there's a blatant dangerous mentality posted here and you say nothing....

If you're gonna be a safety nazi, at least be consitent...

Maybe you missed post #12.

[AlBundy]

And you think there's nothing wrong with a group mentality of post #18?

I'm sorry, you pick on one mans life report about riding, then apparently miss something which is utterly more dangerous....

Something is amiss with that...

[PrincessBandit]

And you think there's nothing wrong with a group mentality of post #18?

I'm sorry, you pick on one mans life report about riding, then apparently miss something which is utterly more dangerous....

Something is amiss with that...

Perhaps because there were plenty of other people commenting on it Katman was seeing what the lie of the land was. Besides, "Ixion" and "talking shit" don't usually go together, so if what Ixion has posted works safely for him then why should someone else object? You seem like a hard to please person or are you jumping on the Katman bandwagon? He won't give a toss either way.

[Finn]

About 2 years ago when I first graced KB with my presence, I was invited on a group ride. We met at Kopu Tavern and I was told to ride staggered. I thought this was a bit of a strange request given it was only 10 in the morning but went along with it and downed several whiskeys.

[AlBundy]

Perhaps because there were plenty of other people commenting on it Katman was seeing what the lie of the land was. You seem like a hard to please person or are you jumping on the Katman bandwagon? He won't give a toss either way.

Actually, since Katman is like that to everyone else, regardless of context, I'll treat him the same as he does others.

If he's to preach, he should do it for everyone, regardless of where the thread/post is....

I think he's a biased two-face...

[Katman]

I think he's a biased two-face...

Mate, I've been called some funny shit on here but that one is almost worth changing my signature for.

[Ixion]

And you think there's nothing wrong with a group mentality of post #18?

I'm sorry, you pick on one mans life report about riding, then apparently miss something which is utterly more dangerous....

Something is amiss with that...

Worked for them back in the day. Amazing how people got out of the way! No idea what current practice is in such groups, like I said it was a lot of years ago.

But I don't think you need worry , I very much doubt you will ever be part of such a convoy.

Actually, I doubt many riders nowadays could, the discipline required is very high.Not advocating, it just saying.

[pritch]

It seems to be a north Island thing...

There's not enough riders in the South Island to form anything that could reasonably described as a group.

Well, when I've passed through there are very few in evidence.
I might come and have another look over the summer, another Akaroa fish n' chips lunch beckons...