Popularity of 600cc sportsbikes

**imdying** · 19th November 2008, 15:57

Apparently there are two types of riders...

Those that understand the concept and appreciate the beauty of torque...

Originally Posted by fatzx10r

sitting on the open road on a long trip i find the 1000's better for me. because it's not reving as high, less gear changes for over taking just little thing's like that, but each to there own

Originally Posted by vifferman

Torque. It's all about the torques, and they make riding less effort / more relaxing.

And those that don't.

Originally Posted by captain_andrey

Whats the point for 1000cc on the road? My 600 goes to 120km/h in first, its light and nimble and costs a few grand less then the 1000 version.

Originally Posted by vtec

A 1000cc bike? No real advantage over a 600 except top speed and quartermile, harder to handle and more dangerous without being significantly quicker round the track. More fun to be had on a 600.

Originally Posted by scracha

Kiwi's like dick extensions. You should see their cars.

**Gremlin** · 20th November 2008, 11:30

600 is peaky, has to be ridden higher in the revs the whole time. If thats your scene, then yeah, 600 is for you. Me, I loved the thou, the torque, not to mention keeping it under control (or at least thinking you are)

The funny thing is, a lot of 600 riders are stoked to keep up with a thou... I think a lot of thou riders are happy to keep up with a 600 (all well ridden etc). The thou is far more likely to loop/high side etc and I enjoy the battle of wills

**jrandom** · 20th November 2008, 11:34

Originally Posted by Gremlin

The thou is far more likely to loop/high side etc

WTF?

Even a SCARY THOU (WOOOO!) only does what you tell it to with the twisty bit and the turny part.

**Gremlin** · 20th November 2008, 11:53

Originally Posted by jrandom

Even a SCARY THOU (WOOOO!) only does what you tell it to with the twisty bit and the turny part.

well duuuuh

point is, use the twisty bit the same amount on each... the thou is more likely to object to your inputs...

Remember, I did say thats what I liked... its rather exciting

**jrandom** · 20th November 2008, 11:57

Originally Posted by Gremlin

I did say thats what I liked... its rather exciting

What a very sexy man of danger and mystery you are.

**Gremlin** · 20th November 2008, 12:49

Originally Posted by jrandom

What a very sexy man of danger and mystery you are.

I know your reputation... whore!! I'm not that easy

**slofox** · 20th November 2008, 13:22

Not all 600 (read 650) bikes need to have the gears stirred all the time - you could always go V-twin.......wider power band and quite happy to lope along on the open road.....mind you, I quite like working the gears myself but that's only me.....coming from a background of small bikes you get used to that. And frankly I have no trouble getting past things...apart from overcoming my own native caution that is.....

**The Stranger:Me** · 20th November 2008, 14:05

Originally Posted by imdying

Apparently there are two types of riders...

Those that understand the concept and appreciate the beauty of torque...

And those that don't.

Reliability?

A certain largish gent had his R6 rebuilt more than a few times. Sure he could keep up with the thous, and regularly did. But I wonder how much of a toll that took on the engine and drive train?

**Morcs** · 20th November 2008, 14:29

I just traded my TLS on a 600rr. No complaints. I can still ride it like a twin and keep good pace. Then its got a top end if I want to go quicker

**speed63** · 21st November 2008, 10:27

Interesting reading. I ride the 600 and the thou the same, one is just faster!

**Stampy** · 21st November 2008, 11:52

We have a Speedfour 600 as well as a Speedtriple, I hone my skills more on the 600 than the 1050, A lot of litre sportsbike riders would probably do well to back themselves down to a 600 for a while and hone their riding skills and abilities before stepping up. Sports 600's are a sheetload of fun and can pump out some serious HP, riding them to their ( Or my ) limits is an enlightening experience, Hitting the redline at 14000 rpm banging it thru the gears, I'm getting sweaty just thinking about it

**AlBundy** · 21st November 2008, 16:05

Originally Posted by imdying

Apparently there are two types of riders...

Those that understand the concept and appreciate the beauty of torque...

And those that don't.

Couldn't agree more... Well said.

This whole debate has been done before.

Most litre bikes make more torque at 4000rpm than a 600 makes period. It's NOT always about hp...

**quickbuck** · 21st November 2008, 19:57

Originally Posted by AlBundy

Couldn't agree more... Well said.

This whole debate has been done before.

Most litre bikes make more torque at 4000rpm than a 600 makes period. It's NOT always about hp...

HP is a product of torque and RPM's... so.... hmmm.

Anyhow, I love my 600 and would never have anything else... Well I say that now. Does all i want to.

The thing about thous (for me) is that they have a bigger appetite for tyres and chains due to more torque. Also tend to have an appetite for fuel... But who cares about that.

**Deano** · 21st November 2008, 20:47

For gawds sake - man up already, get a thou.

p/t

Originally Posted by Stampy

A lot of litre sportsbike riders would probably do well to back themselves down to a 600 for a while and hone their riding skills and abilities before stepping up. Sports 600's are a sheetload of fun and can pump out some serious HP, riding them to their ( Or my ) limits is an enlightening experience, Hitting the redline at 14000 rpm banging it thru the gears, I'm getting sweaty just thinking about it

Mate - sounds like you need a dose of TRTNR !!