First ticket today...

[FJRider]

Just remember... 110 km's/hr, when you were supposed to be restricted to 70, means you were 40 km/hr over the allowable limit...for you. That could have had you walking home. Automatic 24 hour loss of license, 'till the court case, then probably another six months loss...
I say don't pay the fines, take it to court and let the judge decide your fate...

[Ixion]

Eh? 40 kph over a POSTED SPEED LIMIT is 28 day licence suspension. (50kph over a lawful temporary speed limit - not all of them are lawful) . But a licence condition is not a posted speed limit. Doesn't apply. Totally separate bit of legislation.

[FJRider]

Eh? 40 kph over a POSTED SPEED LIMIT is 28 day licence suspension. (50kph over a lawful temporary speed limit - not all of them are lawful) . But a licence condition is not a posted speed limit. Doesn't apply. Totally separate bit of legislation.

I have been known to be wrong... let the judge decide what is correct..... is he brave enough ...???

[monkeymsea]

Just go anyway I might be going on my zxr250a...Might look a bit ghetto with a busted windshield Shall I call the cops in advance for your weaving all over the road, speed limit exceeding, lane hogging antics?!

The guys i was ment to ride with bailed lol. maybe next weekend..

Dont worry I already told to cops to pull over any zxrs on the coro loop this weekend.. And it wasnt weaving lol It was getting blown around by the wind lol


I dont know if i should take it to court.. Maybe is should pay it.. Letting the system chew me up and spit me out.. lol

[HungusMaximist]

Look, take the L plate off but keep it with you at all times, chuck in the rear seat if it opens.

If you get the shits from the cops on your missing L plate, just give them the ''oh shit officer, it's been the 4th time my L plate has blown off so I always carry a spare one my pack'', then go ahead and pull out your L plate.

Yes I've done it and it's worked, just be genuine, with proper reasoning most cops are sweet.

[CookMySock]

or else YANK the thing off and put it in the boot, and give him the "it just fell off riiiight over there!! so I put it in my boot.. I'll remount it tonight!"

Steve

[bigfoot]

Now that youre a biker...... your "interactions" with the police will go up 10 fold......with mostly noone but ourselves to blame.... had never been pulled over in 5 years of driving a cage, pulled over 3 times in my first 8 months of biking. I got pulled over doing 117km/hr just out of wellington .... (rode in all the way from auckland by myself one day) without the L plates on. The copper didnt raise a fuss about the L plate, but said I was 47 clicks over the limit = loss of license. I says "I know you think its dangerous to be riding 30kmph over the limit, but dont you think its just as dangerous riding 30kmph slower than it ? ". He was all like "well the law is there for a reason" and I told him that it was under review at the moment, sir, good sir, ....... in the end he charged me with riding 17kmph over the limit.

Most cops are reasonable (unless theyre ginger and patrol SH17 in a nissan primera) .... just be respectful and logical with them !

[Ms Piggy]

Ouch, that's an expensive telling off!

"when your riding you need to be in the centre of the lane or as far left as your can"
now im thinking what the shit? that's not right but nodded head.

Ummm, I just checked what the LTSA say about keeping left and the cop is actually right. I've copied & pasted it.
"Keeping left

In New Zealand, vehicles drive on the left-hand side of the road.

It is essential to keep left, because if you don't you are likely to cause a head-on crash. This is one of the worst types of crash you can have, as it almost always results in death or severe injury.
What is a road?

The legal definition of a road is very broad. It includes not only streets and highways, but also any place the public has access to – including bridges, beaches, riverbeds, car parks, reserve lands, wharves and road shoulders.

Because of this, you should apply road rules at all times when you're driving, even when you aren't on a public road.
Keeping left on a laned road

Most roads in New Zealand have lanes marked on them with a white line or raised studs.

When driving on a laned road, it is important to drive your vehicle within your lane.

Where there are two or more lanes on your side of the centre line:

* keep in the left-hand lane as much as you can
* don't use the lane closest to the centre line if you will hold up other vehicles.

The lane closest to the centre line should only be used when:

* you want to pass another vehicle
* you want to turn right
* the left-hand lane is full with other traffic or is blocked."

http://www.landtransport.govt.nz/roa...ping-left.html

[roy.nz]

Yea, I'm gutted as. I mean its not like I was doing 160 down there, which can be pretty easy :P. 112 on the motorway cruising with traffic.. Its abit unfair but at least he got some of his quota lol

Dont worry i've also been part off the quota like that. Lost my licence and payed $3500 to the quota system.
At least they;l have a wicked christmas party.

[icekiwi]

Seem to recall some chuckling Monkey when I lost my licence earlier in the year....Good on ya mate your on the Demerit point plan to Walking...
Take a couple of HTFU pills,put ya hand in ya wallet an pay your bill...

Hehee I can say that he's my stepson....And yep Its good to see he's following my fine example...

[Mikkel]

Contest it - that ticket is about as solid as a snowball in hell. I really hope you haven't paid it yet! As has been said before, if they make a significant mistake on the ticket it is likely to be waived. I would just send the police a letter with a copy of the ticket in it and say you will contest the ticket based upon the fact that it is incorrect and draw their attention to the "speed limit = 70 km/h" bit. I wouldn't make any admissions at all.

The only breach of the traffic code you are guilty of are:
-Breach of license condition - $400 25 demerits
-Exceeding the speed limit by 12 km/h - $80 (IIRC) 20 demerits
-Rego expired - dunno

The first bit is under review and most reasonable cops would mention it to you but not fine you for it. Not to mention that sticking to the 70 is both stupid and dangerous.
Exceeding the speed limit by 12 km/h, yes you can get a ticket for that.
Rego expired... recently, most reasonable cops would point it out and tell you to get it sorted ASAP. Was your WOF still current?

Sounds to me like you had the misfortune of running into a real bastard of a cop. I dunno if there's any means of complaint about an individual cop, but you shouldn't just let him get away with this bullshit.

Best of luck with it.

[monkeymsea]

Ouch, that's an expensive telling off!


Ummm, I just checked what the LTSA say about keeping left and the cop is actually right. I've copied & pasted it.
"Keeping left

In New Zealand, vehicles drive on the left-hand side of the road.

It is essential to keep left, because if you don't you are likely to cause a head-on crash. This is one of the worst types of crash you can have, as it almost always results in death or severe injury.
What is a road?

The legal definition of a road is very broad. It includes not only streets and highways, but also any place the public has access to – including bridges, beaches, riverbeds, car parks, reserve lands, wharves and road shoulders.

Because of this, you should apply road rules at all times when you're driving, even when you aren't on a public road.
Keeping left on a laned road

Most roads in New Zealand have lanes marked on them with a white line or raised studs.

When driving on a laned road, it is important to drive your vehicle within your lane.

Where there are two or more lanes on your side of the centre line:

* keep in the left-hand lane as much as you can
* don't use the lane closest to the centre line if you will hold up other vehicles.

The lane closest to the centre line should only be used when:

* you want to pass another vehicle
* you want to turn right
* the left-hand lane is full with other traffic or is blocked."

http://www.landtransport.govt.nz/roa...ping-left.html

OK that maybe the case in a cage..

I have to motorcyclists road code in my hand.. bear with me while I write it out..

Position
You can use your position on the road to make sure others see you, by riding in the position taken up by the RIGHT-HAND WHEELS of the vehicle in front of you.

Need me to continue?

When riding in this position at the correct following distance, you will be seen in the rear view mirror of the vehicle in front, and therefore ,more likely to be noticed. This right wheel track position also allows you to see to be seen by oncoming vehicles, and for you to see them.

As well as helping you to be seen, riding in this lane position allows you to avoid oil slicks that form in the center of lanes.

So the copper was just talking out his arse excuse the language

[Zoolander]

What the hell, so they are expecting all L plate riders to ride slower than the traffic or ride at 70kph. Expect a hell of a lot more 'accidents' and road rage (all perfectly avoidable if they pulled finger and actually thought about their stupid law).
I thought keeping up with the traffic was safer than riding slow, especially on a bike when cars like sniffing your arse?

Stupid stupid stupid.

Yea but you're missing the point, the 70kmh law is not there to make you ride slower than the flow of motorway traffic, it's to keep learners off the motorway altogether.

Maybe its a stupid law but when I was helping out with BHS courses and the like I definately saw more than a few riders who should have stuck to 50k zones for a good few months.

[Mikkel]

Yea but you're missing the point, the 70kmh law is not there to make you ride slower than the flow of motorway traffic, it's to keep learners off the motorway altogether.

Maybe its a stupid law but when I was helping out with BHS courses and the like I definately saw more than a few riders who should have stuck to 50k zones for a good few months.

That may be the case, however, if you can not build a level of skill and confidence on a motorcycle that will allow you to travel at the open road speed limit in a competent manner in much less than 6 months you would do well to stay away from motorcycling altogether.

[Ixion]

HAd the intention of the legislators been to prevent learners riding on motorways, they could have done so explicitly . "You may not ride on a motorway" : Or, "You may not ride on a road with a 100kph speed limit".