I think my Volty has had a seizure

[Ixion]

Mr Block and Mr Mallet deal to two strokes. This is a four stroke.

[klingon]

well well so someone was trying all the right things with ya..yes only thing would have been ..pull plug out..see if piston has movement...

well update please

Yeah my friend Chris was definitely a handy bloke to have around at a time like that. Officially we were on a ride to test the lovely new V-Strom (DL1000) that he and his wife are going to ride around the South Island.

Things I have learned so far
a) The V-Strom has a very comfy pillion seat
b) It's a bit weird pillioning behind a guy you're not married to, especially when his wife is following on another bike
c) Whenever one rides out of town, one should take along a handy bloke.

[klingon]

Uh-oh, call from Holeshot says it's serious. Will go and have a look-see and report back.

[tri boy]

Hope it works out to be minor klingon.
If it's any concellation, kannys Volty is flying the flag still.
fingers crossed for ya

[xwhatsit]

Uh-oh, call from Holeshot says it's serious. Will go and have a look-see and report back.

Poo. Hopefully my sneering disregard for all bike shops is accurate

What could really be wrong, though? It's not going to seize the piston in the bore from cold, surely nothing would go wrong with the bottom end, would it really drop a valve from turning it over when hitting the starter? Surely it must be this newfangled electric leg carry-on.

Good luck, I understand that horrible feeling in your stomach you've got

[Ixion]

Wel quite a few things COULD go wrong

Broken camchain. Cam chain off its sprocket. Broken conrod. Broken crankshaft. Mangled magneto. Primary drive sheared. Seized camshaft. Valve lost its cottars and bent. Broken cylinder holding down bolts (seen that). Broken cylinder barrel (seen that) . Sheared camshaft drive gear (dunno if there is one, but seen that too).

All of them rather rare though. And not entirely likely when trying to start. We shall have to wait and see what Holeshots say. Presumably they have dissected down to the cause.

[rainman]

Oh noes! Hopefully it's not terminal... do let us know once you hear the verdict.

[klingon]

Well, that was a thoroughly interesting experience. I've never seen the innards of my bike before. And I'm sure it's not meant to look like that.

Here's what happened:

The bolt sheered off from the starter clutch (good guess, Ixion!)
The head of the bolt did one complete circuit of the crank case, scoring a rather spectacular rut all the way around.
At the end of its journey it ripped right through the oil gallery (even more spectacular).

I have several options.
1) Have Holeshot replace the left hand side crank case with one from a wrecked GN
1A) While they're at it, they could replace some or all of the other tired old bits & pieces like the clutch basket, piston rings, valve stem seals & cam chain
2) Steal the engine out of Kanny's Volty and swap them over.
2A) Find another Volty to cannibalise
3) Pay Holeshot $180 labour and $50 collection fee and take all the bits home
3A) Sell the parts
3B) Turn her into a project bike

[Ixion]

Bugger. Apart from the oil gallery, that would be a "OK, yeah, " problem. How bad is the oil gallery damage?

One option here . $25.

[klingon]

Bugger. Apart from the oil gallery, that would be a "OK, yeah, " problem. How bad is the oil gallery damage?

One option here . $25.

The oil gallery is smashed to smithereens. I am very impressed that a little starter motor could exert that kind of force.

Thanks for the TM link. Will investigate.

[slimjim]

yup.....bugger...and bugger...motor transplant or sell as is...

[tri boy]

Or option 3c, stick a DR350 engine in the frame
Sorry to hear about the seriousness of the damage.

[rainman]

Or option 3c, stick a DR350 engine in the frame

Now that sounds like a great plan! TurboVolty!

Bummer Klingon, that's bad news indeed.

[gijoe1313]

Crikey that is not good indeed Beyond even Mr Block and Mr Mallet! I don't know what you will do, but it will be the right choice!

Did you managed to take any piccies?

[Deviant]

Hey, didn't update my other thread because I didn't get it fixed- lack of time and money.

But now that I see this thread I'm rather concerned.

It sounds very similar, and we've tried almost all the same things short of removing the starter motor, plus probably quite a few more.

With the Volty, it looks as though something came off and did damage.
With the GN, I don't think that's the case, it was movable when it stopped, it wasn't 10 mins later. I think it's something less serious, I hope, and I'm low on $ to get it investigated until maybe early Feb.

Let me know what it costs if you get Holeshot to fix it. I've heard good things about them.