Learner curfews

[Jez]

I have my full car and learner bike license ... so after 10pm i can drive the car, but not ride the bike ... is it just me or does this not make sense?

just curious about this cause some nights i dont finish work until 10pm and dont want to get reemed with a donation to Uncle John when im heading home from work.

[rainman]

...donation to Uncle John...

So, the honeymoon's over then?

Yup, you can drive after 10 but not ride after 10. This rule does kinda make sense to me, though....

[CB ARGH]

You can apply for an exemption from the restriction, this can be done at your local AA store. Costs about $22 bucks though.

[firefighter]

I have my full car and learner bike license ... so after 10pm i can drive the car, but not ride the bike ... is it just me or does this not make sense?

just curious about this cause some nights i dont finish work until 10pm and dont want to get reemed with a donation to Uncle John when im heading home from work.

I know your pain mate, I could drive anything up to a Class 4, including a big red fire truck all sleepy eyed speeding through traffic yet not ride my bike after 10, used to bug me and although it does'nt effect me anymore it still grinds my gears.

[BiK3RChiK]

Hahahaha.... Yeah, I've had my car licence for 25 years, but can't ride my bike after 10pm! Absolutely ludicrous! But there you go... some bean counter made the law for some god-forsaken reason. Hopefully, it gets re-thought along with a bunch of other stuff when they finally get their act together and review the Graduated Licencing System.

[vindy500]

they really need different rules for people with only there 6L and ppl with there 1F and 6L

[LardEmbargo]

I never thought it made all that much sense - it always seemed like I could be out practising just riding around later in the evening and there'd be less traffic to worry about. Starting out I really wanted to just get the hang of the bike, but felt like I'd mostly exhausted the possibilities offered by the local car park. Then when I got some general bike-handling-on-real-roads confidence up and it was all starting to feel a bit more natural I could work on
a) riding at busier times of day, and
b) looking out for all the useless bastards who weren't looking out for me.

So it was annoying, is where I was going with that.

[coop]

Yup, you can drive after 10 but not ride after 10. This rule does kinda make sense to me, though....

I've always sought an explanation supporting these curfews. I've my 1, 2 and 4 full, but somehow some fuckwit suit can decide I can ride my 250 bike at 9:30, but not after 10 (whats the difference? Except the later the night is, less traffic will be around - generally a safer riding environment). However I can drive an 18 speed 4 axle truck is ok no matter what the time.

[Jez]

yeah im just struggling to find a reason for it

"its dark" - so is 6:30pm in winter ...

"dew on the roads making slippery surfaces" - rain ...

"tiredness" - i take ages to wake up in the mornings ...

i just cant think of anything ... will get an exemption from that clause due to work, just thought id vent some frustration somewhere

[Paladin]

I've always sought an explanation supporting these curfews. I've my 1, 2 and 4 full, but somehow some fuckwit suit can decide I can ride my 250 bike at 9:30, but not after 10 (whats the difference? Except the later the night is, less traffic will be around - generally a safer riding environment). However I can drive an 18 speed 4 axle truck is ok no matter what the time.

+1 on that!

And since when is nite driving more dangerous than rush hour when every cager is road ragin cos they just wanna get home after workin all day!

It's a mad law, especially for experienced drivers!

[Hadley]

Yeah it's pretty stupid.
It's still light at 10.30pm in summer round these parts, and in winter it's dark at 5.00pm.
It should be more like 11 or 12am if ya ask me.

[Jeremy]

It strangely makes sense to me.

1F means nothing when riding a motorcycle at night. I'm guessing that even truck drivers aren't constantly looking for tiny pot holes at night. You only have to miss one once and that could be the last thing you do and it's hard enough during the day time. There use to be a square one in the right most lane going south just after (or was it before?) tecoma street heading south on the southern motorway. If you didn't know where it was night if you hit it from the wrong angle you could easily find yourself becoming one with the barrier. The hazards are different on a bike, you don't yet have the experience at looking for those sorts of things constantly.

Not only that but other people certainly aren't looking for bikes at all at those sort of hours. During the day there was a slim chance, at 11pm there's none.

[jtzzr]

Maybe they did a survey and that`s when most of the fuckwit drunk cage drivers leave the pub.

[Ixion]

The reason for the curfew is purely statistical. Bear in mind the the curfew rule is the same for cars and bikes.

TPTB analysed crash statistics. They observed (perspicious little sheeple that they are), that young drivers (ah, youff, so by definition in the wrong) had more crashes at night. So, they reasoned, if youff were not allowed to drive at night, they would not crash. They had to allow a bit of leeway to allow youff to get home after school or work (and to get to ditto in the morning). After that, make them stay home Sorted.

Of course , it never occured to TPTB to ask themselves when youff did most of its driving, nor to observe that youff had very little opportunity to drive during the day (being at school and werk , like), so that naturally the evening figures were higher. Nor did it occur to them that youff, unlike Granny , does not tend to stay home at night and watch Coronation St, but , rather, sees night as the logical time to to go out, meet mates, hoon around and screw the girlfriend (on account of doing it at home in the lounge distracts Granny from Coro St). The sheeple, like Granny go out during the day to go to the supermarket , and stay home at night to watch Coro St. The idea that other people might have different habits is beyond the reach of their imagination.Lots of youff driving around at night not many during the day, logically more crashs at night. Hence, curfew.

(No, it didn't occur to them that not all learners would be youff, either)

[1 Free Man]

I've had my car licence for 40 years. Now on my restricted and of course not alowed to ride after 10pm. I think it's because I become irresponsible after 10 at night when I get on to two wheels. I turn into a real demon before 5.00 am so they keep me off the road then as well.
It's a buggar when you get older and become a fuckwitt in the eye's of parliment. Really they should know the place is full of them so they are in a good place to judge