Bike crash statistic thread for '09

[arj127]

With all this bullshit about motorcyclists being the highest ACC claimers in the news lately, i think there should be a thread on kiwibiker for any known motorcycle injuries in 2009 since they won't give us the full statistics. We don't need names, just a date and cause of crash wether it be rider error or genuine accident.

If we can keep a note of the accidents and how they were caused we would have a better idea of who is actually at fault. Keeping track of the dirt riding/ farm bike community would be impossible, but i'm sure they are being included into the statistics.

How can we do this???

[AD345]

You mean something like this?

[arj127]

Well, sort off.

I'd like to see a post on here with all known crash injuries/fatals and a small description of fault/error.

Such as:

10/1/0- Road user, caused by car u-turn - injury
11/1/0- Farmbike, pilot error quad rolled - fatal

I think we should try and get the true stats ourselves since they wont give them to us.

On the PDF you provided, how many of the deaths were related to say motocross or farmbikes?? Or is it genuinely only road usage.

With all the rider down posts on here i think we can collect enough info for one year and put it in one post to get an idea of what the percentages really are.

I'm going to be really pissed off if ACC put more levy on my bike rego, i'm paying far to much allready with having to reg my car and bike, and can only use one at any given time.

[riffer]

I can tell you right now dude, from over five years' experience on this site.

The vast majority of rider down threads are due to rider error.

[Quasievil]

If half the Riders on this site stopped using the roads as their personal fucking racing track then the rider fatalities and injuries would drop like a stone particulary around the coro loop.

Riders should stop looking for excuses and look at themselves.

[arj127]

The vast majority of rider down threads are due to rider error.

And what i'm saying is, lets find out.

The posts where the rider was at error on here always seem to stand out the most, but i do remember others, such as the gokart vs ducati incident.

If we are going to try and stop these ACC pricks from hiking our rego's up again then when need valid statistics. Not statistics that include off road riding injuries, farm bike injuries, or four wheeled vehicles taking us out.

[Marmoot]

The primary cause for crashes is speed. Standstill items don't crash.
No matter how slow you are, if you're moving you can crash.

That saying, ACC levy WILL go up regardless of how many people crashing, if the government needs the levy to go up.

Statistics. BAH! Look at the numbers from different angle and you'll always get a different results.

For a start, I would like to get what those responsible for the 4 billion dollar hole in the ACC have to say. Where are they?

[Ixion]

The primary cause for crashes is speed. Standstill items don't crash.
..

Mr Dodgyiti might disagree with that.

[Marmoot]

Mr Dodgyiti might disagree with that.

downward velocity still qualifies as "speed", Mr. Ixion.

[mashman]

The primary cause for crashes is speed. Standstill items don't crash.

but they do get crashed into!!! still a crash no???

[Titanium]

I can tell you right now dude, from over five years' experience on this site.

The vast majority of rider down threads are due to rider error.

Yup cause they all brag about it when they get back on the keyboard ......

[Quasievil]

Yup cause they all brag about it when they get back on the keyboard ......

Assuming they make it back to the keyboard.

and the primary cause for crashes is not speed its stupidity often on the bikers part.

[riffer]

Assuming they make it back to the keyboard.

and the primary cause for crashes is not speed its stupidity often on the bikers part.

But WHY?


Is it just what humans do? If it is, then we're screwed. It's never going to change...

[Katman]

It is so pathetically shortsighted to look at accidents with the blinkered view of 'who's at fault'.

Accidents should be looked at with the attitude - 'what could I have done to avoid it?'

[FJRider]

With all this bullshit about motorcyclists being the highest ACC claimers in the news lately, i think there should be a thread on kiwibiker for any known motorcycle injuries in 2009 since they won't give us the full statistics. We don't need names, just a date and cause of crash wether it be rider error or genuine accident.

If we can keep a note of the accidents and how they were caused we would have a better idea of who is actually at fault. Keeping track of the dirt riding/ farm bike community would be impossible, but i'm sure they are being included into the statistics.

How can we do this???

You can't... You would need access to ACC files to compile a full list of claimants. ACC policy prohibits disclosure of that information... for privacy reasons. NO fault insurance means fault does not affect claims and thus not recorded.
Best bet is to contact department of statistics, they may have the data you require/ask of ...