zx10r is a good learners bike
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zx10r is a good learners bike
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It's time...
What EJK said.Originally Posted by karottop
However, as a learner, you might consider exercising a little caution about passing lines of cars on short straits (or straights).
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dude sorry.. but a vtr on a hill wont hold 100 without kicking down a gear. my hornet will sit in 6th on a fairly decentish hill at 100k no probem and if needed can still kick back 2 gears for a quick overtake.. Im surprised no other hornet riders have made any comments regarding this yet.
End of the day hornets not a 15 year + old give the older inline 4's a good run for there money ect look good and all the rest yadayadayada and alot that within his price range. maybe a lil scatched here and there for $4500 but hey stil a damn good bike none the less
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Hardcore Biker
Well, my VTR easily cruises along at 100 in 5th up any hill I've encountered.
Maybe if I was a fatty I might need to downshift, I dunno.
Should be out riding
My zxr250a (1989) was quite punchy and could cane it past "lines of cars" with a bit of effort but it was doable.
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My advice is to go for the VTR250, it will be way more comfortable for learning and riding at reasonable speeds, the IL4's that have power are jumpy and revy which makes them harder to control at low speeds and therefore harder to learn on, you wont get as much enjoyment out of an IL4 until you are experienced enough to take advantage of how they operate.
Don't bother starting out at 120km or you will get yourself into allot of trouble. Start slow and work your way up, the VTR will be fast enough to scare you but manageable at the same time and they do move really nicely on the open road i am told.
You can't save the fallen, direct the lost or motivate the lazy.
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Oh and the hornets a bloody nice too
You can't save the fallen, direct the lost or motivate the lazy.
It's time...
...which is why they have a gear lever. Problem solved.
You're nuthin
Precisely - and an IL4 won't pull away in 5th after going round a 25kph corner.
Should be out riding
My 600 wont climb quickly in 5th @ 25km/h ...
Gears are good.
You can't save the fallen, direct the lost or motivate the lazy.
Cyborg Biker
The VTR 250 , its not the fastest but will be fast enough to get you a speeding ticket on the open road.
The VTR is a very forgiving bike and is a great bike to learn on... and can still be fun... Xaria has done many tours (with gear) on hers and still luvs it.
Weekend cruiser
Buy a VTR, ride it for a couple of months, buy an IL4 when you get bored
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Oh good. Commission. Just what I need for those Xmas bills. Hurry up and start overtaking those cars please, the bank gets impatient.
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You can't save the fallen, direct the lost or motivate the lazy.
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righhhhttt.. and how fast are you going around this 25er?
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Just FYI for the ones who dont know
VTR - 24.0 NM touque
32.0 Hp
140 kg dry
Hornet - 24.5 NM
40.5 Hp
151 kg dry
Hornet has a 16L fuel tanks vs a 13L on the VTR comes with fuel gauge on all hornets ( i think ) vtr's some do some dont
also a 5sp on the vtr and a 6 speed on the hornet ( hornet needs 6th where as a vtr doesn't )
don't get me wrong I like the vtr's alot but theres some fact's that may help out on making a decision
Also give or take + 3hp on the hornet between 1996 - 2002 ive seen diff specs for diff years and talked to some honda bike mech in Japan on myspace ( some have bigger carbs some don't ) not that he can be classed as a reliable source of information.
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