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    School zones and merging traffic?

    Two questions pertaining to road laws.

    SCHOOL ZONES. I drive past five school zones. One of these has a sign stating hours. This is a large white sign.
    1. Are the posted hours standard or do they vary with school or locality?
    2. Does this type of sign ‘always’ indicate the presence of 40kph lights?
    3. What is the speed limit outside of these hours.

    There is also the standard sign. This is a bright green in colour simply stating SCHOOL ZONE.
    1. This is a 40kph area. Are these sign subject to times or is this a 40kph 24 hour and seven days a week.
    2. Same colour sign but indictates school crossing. This may or may not be outside a school. Does this sign also have a designated speed zone of 40kph?


    Second part has to do with merging lanes.

    While it is courteous for both lanes to indicate they are merging I have noticed that in effect only way lane is designated as the merging lane where a merging lane sign is displayed. In most cases this is the inside lane but there are merging lanes where the outside is the merging lane ie Hornby mall in Christchurch.

    1. Is the driver in the through lane, that is the none designated merging lane, required by law to indicate?

    While I aprreciate any and all answeres to this where can I find the definitive answers to all this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyryder View Post
    Is the driver in the through lane, that is the non-designated merging lane, required by law to indicate?
    Indicate what?

    I don't usually indicate when merging, whatever lane I'm in, on the grounds that it's bloody obvious what I'm doing. But perhaps I need to read the Road Code.

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    You don't have to indicate and (from my interpretation) the person in the merging lane (the one disappearing) has right of way.

    At a guess i would say that a 40km/h sign without a timeframe means 40km/h all day every day.
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    RE merging, the Road Code describes several merging situations:

    http://www.landtransport.govt.nz/roa...g/merging.html

    The first one shows two "equal" lanes merging. It says "merge like a zip" and doesn't mention indicating or any difference in priority between the two lanes.

    The second and thrid show a lane in which traffic that has just joined the road is merging into the main flow. It says the traffic on the merging lane has to indicate and adjust speed to fit into gaps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badjelly View Post
    RE merging, the Road Code describes several merging situations:

    http://www.landtransport.govt.nz/roa...g/merging.html

    The first one shows two "equal" lanes merging. It says "merge like a zip" and doesn't mention indicating or any difference in priority between the two lanes.

    The second and thrid show a lane in which traffic that has just joined the road is merging into the main flow. It says the traffic on the merging lane has to indicate and adjust speed to fit into gaps.
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    merging: it depends on what lane im in. if im in the right, then i dont indicate. i do slow to allow vehicles from the left in. if im in the left, i do indicate, and speed up to get in the lane before it runs out [depending on the traffic in the right lane]

    schools: i treat all schools as having 40k speed limits, whether posted or not. this includes weekdays during school holidays, as i figure kids may be accustomed to having safe crossing there and might not check first. and that goes all day, everyday.

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    This the only one I can answer for sure.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Skyryder View Post
    There is also the standard sign. This is a bright green in colour simply stating SCHOOL ZONE.
    1. This is a 40kph area. Are these sign subject to times or is this a 40kph 24 hour and seven days a week. Def best to obey that 24/7...according to the speed camera fine I got recently from travelling past a school at just on 50 at around 11pm at night...OOPS!. There isn't even one of those signs where I got it too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyryder View Post
    Two questions pertaining to road laws.

    SCHOOL ZONES. I drive past five school zones. One of these has a sign stating hours. This is a large white sign.
    1. Are the posted hours standard or do they vary with school or locality?
    2. Does this type of sign ‘always’ indicate the presence of 40kph lights?
    3. What is the speed limit outside of these hours.

    There is also the standard sign. This is a bright green in colour simply stating SCHOOL ZONE.
    1. This is a 40kph area. Are these sign subject to times or is this a 40kph 24 hour and seven days a week.
    2. Same colour sign but indictates school crossing. This may or may not be outside a school. Does this sign also have a designated speed zone of 40kph?
    1. Hours may vary.
    2. No. The sign is not accompanied by lights.
    3. The speed limit outside of the specified hours of operation is the normal speed limit for that road.

    1. The SCHOOL ZONE sign is informative only. No speed limit is attached to it.
    2. The SCHOOL CROSSING sign is informative only. No speed limit is attached to it.

    School zones speed limits are not 40km/h unless there are signs that are in operation at the time. Schools must apply to have this provision. See here.

    As for the question you're asking about merging, I can't work out what you are asking - the School Zone one was hard enough to decipher. That aside if you are crossing any white line parallel to your direction of travel, you must indicate.

    Quote Originally Posted by Number One View Post
    Def best to obey that 24/7...according to the speed camera fine I got recently from travelling past a school at just on 50 at around 11pm at night...OOPS!. There isn't even one of those signs where I got it too
    That's completely wrong. You should contest it.
    If it wasn't for a concise set of rules, we might have to resort to common sense!

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    Im not sure if this is helpful, but i find school zones and merging lanes, prime location for wheelies.
    Then I could get a Kb Tshirt, move to Timaru and become a full time crossdressing faggot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Max Preload View Post
    That's completely wrong. You should contest it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Badjelly View Post
    Indicate what?

    I don't usually indicate when merging, whatever lane I'm in, on the grounds that it's bloody obvious what I'm doing. But perhaps I need to read the Road Code.
    I don't believe (though could be wrong) that there is a requirement to indicate at a merge, however either way I believe that it is prudent for the following reasons.
    1) A flashing light attracts attention. Someone who may not have seen you may notice your flashing light instead.
    2) I indicate for those I haven't seen.
    3) A vehicle may have been overtaking a truck (for example) and missed the fact that the road merges at about that point. This happens surprisingly often.
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    The reason I ask on the merging lane is that there is a requirment to indicate when changing lanes. I am assuming that the merging lane is considered to be the changing lane and is therefore required to indicate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyryder View Post
    The reason I ask on the merging lane is that there is a requirment to indicate when changing lanes. I am assuming that the merging lane is considered to be the changing lane and is therefore required to indicate.
    Yes, but there a situations where neither lane is clearly the "merging lane". (See my post above.) In this case I don't think it is necessary or desirable to indicate.

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    Only my 2 cents worth.

    The left lane of a merging lanes generally indicates to merge, out of courtesy to be let in - merge like a zip. The right hand lane generally has right of way.
    It really amazes me how many people cant grasp the concept of merging like a zip, only to acheive a car length ahead. We are all in a hurry going in the same direction, what gives??

    As for schools, even though it is not in the current road code, it is now mandatory to drive past a school at 40kms regardless of what time of day it is and regardless if there is no road sign dictating so. Apparently the school sign is justifyable enough.
    There have been ads on the radio and in newspapers about it.
    There was a write up in my local newspaper dictating the rule. If you get caught doing 5kms over the 40kms past a school you will be ticketed.
    I dont know how schools situated on a 100km highway get on.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Trumpess View Post
    If you get caught doing 5kms over the 40kms past a school you will be ticketed.
    So is this 24-7?

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