ATGATT Muppets that don't

[firefighter]

The amount of scooter boys and wild hog owners wearing the same sort of protective gear (bare skin) is just amazing, i can see why acc is pushing for a minimum protective clothing when riding anything with 2 wheels that is motorised.

With the amount of head injuries which could have been prevented by wearing a helmet, I can see why ACC is pushing to make them compulsary for car drivers.....

Ohhh, and with the amount of injuries due to sliding down a pole at firestations, I can see why OSH pushed for them to be removed and for people to rush down stairs.....because that's safer......

Ohh, and with the amount of child abuse going on, I can see why smacking children is now illegal.....because the people who abuse kids will only do it if smacking them is'nt illegal....(i'm sure it's more a case of "they'll do it either way") has anything changed here?

My point, is that if I don't want to wear all my gear, I won't, sometimes, on a quiet pootle to the shop, as my bike is my only transport, I should be able to.....if i'm stupid enough to be riding like a dick when not protected properly, then that's my own fault......
Who the hell want's to fuck around with 15 layers of shit to go to the shop and back?
If i'm riding a little further, then i'll dress accordingly.....
You can't just wrap the world up in cotton wool, they've done enough of that already don't you think?

[Ixion]

Y'all don't think the wheelie might have had anything to do with it ?

[Blossom]

Y'all don't think the wheelie might have had anything to do with it ?

Definitely.. Doing wheelies in busy streets with no protective clothing on is a superbly bad idea.
Doing wheelies in busy streets with protective clothing on is just a bad idea.

[MadDuck]

Y'all don't think the wheelie might have had anything to do with it ?

Isnt there some kind of saying that gets thrown around KB from time to time? Goes something like:

"Wheelies are neither big nor clever"

Maybe this has to be slightly adapted for those who wheelie with inadequate gear for riding a motorcycle????

[varminter]

As soon as I get the hang of pulling away from the curb without falling off it's strip off, on with the pink leather posing pouch and off I go doing wheelies

[AD345]

How true, how true.

At least the GSXR rider above has his life left to learn from his mistake. Problem, is the immature will usually blame all other factors instead of themselves. The learning doesn't happen.

I think the legislation should extend to at least gloves and jacket, and that would include bicycles that travel close to the speed limit. People may laugh at me (like they probably did 50 years ago at the though of compulsory cycle helmets), but it is only time...

I'm not laughing at ya

I'm swearing at ya

Don't try to educate by legislating - passing a law doesn't teach anyone anything. It just punishes choice.

If you want to remove peoples choices - then be upfront about it: "I don't like the choice you made (even though it risked no-one other than yourself) so I am going to make that choice illegal".

I'll still swear at ya - but wif respect.

[Squiggles]

I think the legislation should extend to at least gloves and jacket, and that would include bicycles that travel close to the speed limit. People may laugh at me (like they probably did 50 years ago at the though of compulsory cycle helmets), but it is only time...

Only a matter of time if you support it..

Fuckit, why not make all bikes over 250cc illegal, since more people get hurt riding them. No wait, better still, get rid of road bikes! That way nobody'll get hurt because they chose to ride one!

[varminter]

I'm all for people learning the hard way, if that's how they want to do it, I just don't want to pay for it.

[Pegasus]

My point, is that if I don't want to wear all my gear, I won't, sometimes, on a quiet pootle to the shop, as my bike is my only transport, I should be able to.....if i'm stupid enough to be riding like a dick when not protected properly, then that's my own fault......
Who the hell want's to fuck around with 15 layers of shit to go to the shop and back?
If i'm riding a little further, then i'll dress accordingly.....
You can't just wrap the world up in cotton wool, they've done enough of that already don't you think?

All I can say to that after recently seeing the way my car didn't come back from a quick trip to the shop is: Please put at least a couple of those layers on, if you are going to do the trip without a cage around you. I know it is a choice thing, but you can’t choose the other losers that are on the road at the same time as you.

[zzzbang]

making all this gear compulsory is just going further and further into a nanny state, id like my choice of whether i want to wear my gloves or not. even if i make a stupid decision, its my fault if my hands get scraped thanks. wearing a helmet whenever im on a motorbike is a given no matter what or where though.

by the way, making gloves/jacket compulsory for bicycles.. come on, the amount of impracticality isnt even funny. when hit by a car you either end up with broken bones (jacket doesnt prevent this), or you end up with road rash (jacket probably prevents this). the choice of risking road rash is a choice i would like to keep.

[firefighter]

All I can say to that after recently seeing the way my car didn't come back from a quick trip to the shop is: Please put at least a couple of those layers on, if you are going to do the trip without a cage around you. I know it is a choice thing, but you can’t choose the other losers that are on the road at the same time as you.

All I can say is- that I deal with what happens when your car ends up in that state at least once a fortnight, I think i'm qualified enough to make a judgement call on a trip to the shop...... (I see dead people and everything....)

I know you mean well, but to be honest, I think i'm a lot more aware of what happens to vehicles and people at accidents than the average kiwi.....

I'm sure my careful pootle up the road won't result in anything too devastating.....the point of this thread is lost really, I think what should've been illustrated is that if your going to do stupid shit on your bike, keep it on the track or at least right place right time, with proper gear on.....not in a busy traffic filled area without any gear on, the fact that this guy is a fuckwitt does'nt mean the rest of us should be lumped into the same boat....

[firefighter]

by the way, making gloves/jacket compulsory for bicycles.. come on, the amount of impracticality isnt even funny. when hit by a car you either end up with broken bones (jacket doesnt prevent this), or you end up with road rash (jacket probably prevents this). the choice of risking road rash is a choice i would like to keep.

Agreed, and how exactly would this encourage people to leave the cage at home and save fossil fuels/the environment?!

I get hot riding in my gear on my bike, imagine having to ride a bicycle in your gear.....

[klingon]

...there sitting on the other side of the road is said clever bastard wrapped up in a silver blanket... The clever bastard was all torn up shoulders, hands/knuckles, knees/legs, ankles, elbows all skinned to shit and gone...

Am I the only one who feels even a little bit sorry for this guy? I mean, yes he was being stupid... but... ouch!

[FJRider]

Y'all don't think the wheelie might have had anything to do with it ?

Naaahhhh.... just unlucky....

[FJRider]

Am I the only one who feels even a little bit sorry for this guy? I mean, yes he was being stupid... but... ouch!

If you ever get a chance to discuss the merits of "always" wearing your gear, with one who does NOT... you also will in future, also lack sympathy too.... Life is about CHOICES... he made one. Weather or not he makes the SAME choice again... is the indicator or his stupidity...