Would you ride with coppers?

[Conquiztador]

Re the original question: Would I ride with coppers? As I mostly ride alone or with people I know really well and I do not know any coppers well, the answer is no, not by my choice.

I tend to have a different look at life compared to the ones who have decided that being a copper is something they really want to do. We all make choices in life and each of them has consequences.

But somehow I think that coppers are not that worried that i do not ride with them...

[Mikkel]

Sorry Mikkel you have lost me here Maybe being a newbe to KB I have not learned the KB lingo.

Sorry, I'm trying to get along on my second language... it's not KB lingo.

All I meant was that instead of being a mindless drone and saying "It's the law!" and then follow it, you actually have the obligation to think for yourself and so does the police officer that pulls you over. If people have the mindset that they should just follow the rules and never question authority someone is going to end up in a concentration camp sooner or later. History has taught us at least that.

Also, that some people seem to have forgotten what the purpose of the law is - the law was never intended to be used to strike down each and every transgression but to allow a government to have a legal recourse against those who constitute a real risk towards their fellow man.

Except they don't get the money they make from ticket revenue (well fuck all of it anyway)

So what exactly happens to our money when we pay the velocity duty?

[jeffs]

I find tapeing over your speedo above 100kmh resolves all moral delmars. With this simple modification, I am able to sleep at night, and say " I'm sure I never went above 100kmh, honest " And yes I would still ride with a cop

If people have the mindset that they should just follow the rules and never question authority someone is going to end up in a concentration camp sooner or later. History has taught us at least that.

Just to help you, I have stopped someone from beating up a non-christian, and never stopped for a second to decide if it was wrong or right in the eyes of any law

[Ixion]

A mph speedo is even better. The sign said 100, but I rode slower than that, cos I know speed kills. My speedo needle never went over 90.

[jeffs]

Thanks for that tip, I think my speedo can be simply converted to MPH. If a cop invites me out on a ride, and his speedo is not working, maybe this will solve his moral delmar as well

[McJim]

Riding with cops isn't the problem really. It's when I start preparing to shoot up and the fuckers want to share my needle that the issues start to appear........must remember...I am not in Glasgow any more...I am not in Glasgow any more...I am not in Glasgow any more...I am not in Glasgow any more

[FJRider]

Riding with cops isn't the problem really. It's when I start preparing to shoot up and the fuckers want to share my needle that the issues start to appear........must remember...I am not in Glasgow any more...I am not in Glasgow any more...I am not in Glasgow any more...I am not in Glasgow any more

So where is this Glasgow you speak of... anywhere near Taupo ???

[Boob Johnson]

Let's be fair though. I can not recall seeing Katman say "Don't break the law." Only that if the majority of bikers ride like idiots it's no wonder that the majority perceive bikers as idiots, and that no one is going to take you serious, nor will you ever learn, if you don't face up and take responsibility for your own actions instead of just shifting the blame and making poor excuses. Nothing wrong with saying that, nothing hypocritical about it... neither is there anything profound in it, just logic 101. The real shame is that it sometimes seems he missed logic 102 - If I talk down to people and behave like an arse my message will most likely not be heeded. (And to be fair again, sadly he's not the only one doing that... I can however take solace in the fact that I have no message. )

All I meant was that instead of being a mindless drone and saying "It's the law!" and then follow it

How many "save bikers from themselves" threads have you read by Katman? They are a plenty, take a read sometime

His sanctimonious one eyed view has gone on for many moons & has attracted many na sayers.




Interesting how he won't answer the question I have posed to him here instead choses to throw obscenities, which he is well known to do when he is boxed in........with the truth

[portokiwi]

Nothing wrong with riding with the police
Most of them are just like the rest of us.
Just have a hard job to do.

[Grahameeboy]

Think about the answer.

Riding with off duty copper-a good bugger and genuine motorcyclist enthusiast, the kind of person you would be happy to drink with and talk shit. Not likely to say anything unless you make a real coont outa yourself.
Here's the rub.
Now while said copper is not going to report back to base after a spirited sports ride, he will have witnessed excessive speeding, the same type of behaviour that in a day or week he will be ticketing some other hapless soul for........
Tempted, but can't get my head around the hypocrisy.

He is off duty Sixbelly.......tis that simple dude...no hypocrisy at all...when he is on duty he keeps the Law...when he is off duty is has to obey the Law and if he does not and get caught then he pays like the rest of us...

[Grahameeboy]

Riding with cops isn't the problem really. It's when I start preparing to shoot up and the fuckers want to share my needle that the issues start to appear........must remember...I am not in Glasgow any more...I am not in Glasgow any more...I am not in Glasgow any more...I am not in Glasgow any more

Carbs are a buffer eh......

[peasea]

Carbs are a buffer eh......

Just like EFI?

[peasea]

Riding with cops isn't the problem really. It's when I start preparing to shoot up and the fuckers want to share my needle that the issues start to appear........must remember...I am not in Glasgow any more...I am not in Glasgow any more...I am not in Glasgow any more...I am not in Glasgow any more

That's the thing; I've declared more than once that I have a liking for things illegal and I simply couldn't be myself in the company of a copper. Maybe I do get up to no good (in the eyes of the law) from time to time, but it's my body and the law is an ass.

I'd rather educate people about what will do what to your bod than chuck anyone with drugs in their pocket into a jail cell. So much legislation segregates the police from the community it's not funny; I'm sure that there would be many occasions where police officers would rather NOT take action in the legal sense but are obliged to do so.

Getting back to the original question; a lot is dependant on the individual(s) and the circumstances, personal views etc and for some it's got a lot to do with history. If you've had a bad run with a bunch of Abbo's would you ride with THEM? I know a bloke who got ripped off by some South Africans and he hates them, will never ride with them etc.

Maybe time will cure the wounds for all of us and we can all ride together in harmony...

Whoah! My chair just rocked but I didn't fall off it.

[98tls]

Whoah! My chair just rocked but I didn't fall off it.

That flashback thing sucks,hangover from the 60s.

[scumdog]

Getting back to the original question; a lot is dependant on the individual(s) and the circumstances, personal views etc and for some it's got a lot to do with history. .

Sounds like my thoughts too...

An arsehole is an arsehole whatever their gender or position in society.