Unresolved conversation...

[Skyryder]

Hope you fought that, because it's bullshit. I frequently stop at lights and stop signs without putting a foot down.

I got nailed in the old MOT days for this. Still pisses me off to this day. No money no job and all things going down hill fast.


Skyryder

[MarkH]

And a defination of a stop when on a bike, includes a foot on the ground, as it was explained to me when I got booked...

My opinion is this:
If you stopped and carefully checked that no traffic was coming before proceeding through the intersection (i.e. rode safely) then the cop was a complete cunt for trying to find a technicality to enable him to give you a ticket anyway.

I Suppose some cops are just complete tools and have less interest in road safety and more interest in giving out tickets.

[Owl]

It's been many years since I passed my licence, but this was my understanding back then and still today. I could be wrong but........

Compulsory Stop: You're supposed to stop before you cross the first line, but must stop before you cross the second.
You may make your compulsory stop before the lines as long as you can see clearly in each direction, but you can't make your stop beyond the lines.

Like I said it's been a while, so how did I do Scumdog?....................

[Max Preload]

it's been many years since i passed my licence, but this was my understanding back then and still today. I could be wrong but........

Compulsary stop: You're supposed to stop before you cross the first line, but must stop before you cross the second.
You may make your compulsary stop before the lines as long as you can see clearly in each direction, but you can't make your stop beyond the lines.

Like i said it's been a while, so how did i do scumdog?....................

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[Owl]

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I'll wait for a real cop if you don't mind!

[Max Preload]

I'll wait for a real cop if you don't mind!

I'm not even a pretend one. I just know what's in the regulations.

[The Stranger:Me]

I got nailed in the old MOT days for this. Still pisses me off to this day. No money no job and all things going down hill fast.


Skyryder

It wasn't under a national govt was it?
Because that would explain a lot.

[MarkH]

Compulsory Stop: You're supposed to stop before you cross the first line, but must stop before you cross the second.
You may make your compulsory stop before the lines as long as you can see clearly in each direction, but you can't make your stop beyond the lines.

Lol

So, what do you actually do when riding/driving and get to a stop sign, but can't see from behind the lines - due to parked cars or whatever?

[Vern]

I can understand the need to stop (if you are still moving as you approach and the vehicles ahead of you move off). But when have any of you seen every single vehicle in the queue stop as it reaches the yellow line?

Hi I live at Westshore and at the intersection by the Westshore motor camp every one has to stop on the like and the police are hiding up there catching anyone who does not stop up by the line. Vern

[Owl]

Lol

So, what do you actually do when riding/driving and get to a stop sign, but can't see from behind the lines - due to parked cars or whatever?

I've never had to cross the line in order to see at a compulory stop! If that became an issue, I'd cross it!

I see Max Preload provided a link to the latest legislation in an earlier post. Different to what I remember, but his is up to date!

[Max Preload]

I've never had to cross the line in order to see at a compulory stop! If that became an issue, I'd cross it!

I have.

I see Max Preload provided a link to the latest legislation in an earlier post. Different to what I remember, but his is up to date!

I prefer to go to the definitive source...

[Owl]

I prefer to go to the definitive source...

So do I Max, but I have trouble finding them now!

[MarkH]

I've never had to cross the line in order to see at a compulory stop! If that became an issue, I'd cross it!

I've lost track of the amount of times I have had to stop forward of the marked lines. This happens more in the car as there is more vehicle forward from where my eyes are. I got my license over 25 years ago and I have never heard of the idea that you should stop before the lines, only that you had to stop where you could safely see if the way was clear. As far as I have ever been aware the lines are painted on the road as a guide only.

[grusomhat]

I can understand the need to stop (if you are still moving as you approach and the vehicles ahead of you move off). But when have any of you seen every single vehicle in the queue stop as it reaches the yellow line?

How often do you see any car, regardless of position, stop at a stop sign. As people have said, Stop means Stop. Each and every vehicle must stop.

[The Stranger:Me]

It's been many years since I passed my licence, but this was my understanding back then and still today. I could be wrong but........

Compulsory Stop: You're supposed to stop before you cross the first line, but must stop before you cross the second.
You may make your compulsory stop before the lines as long as you can see clearly in each direction, but you can't make your stop beyond the lines.

Like I said it's been a while, so how did I do Scumdog?....................

This is yet another example of why I say everyone should have to pass a scratch and win test each time they renew their license. Wont fix bad driving, but at least it should help people get a handle on the road rules. How many other rules do you not know that you don't know?