Moral dilemma -advice please

[MSTRS:Me]

Nahh its all good -Im REALLY in Jorjas good books--check out the pictures of the finished Bike

Where photos??
And we aren't the sharpest today...me old sprocket...are we??

[Boob Johnson]

Tell him the Dealers Code of Conduct forbids you from selling vehicles to people who don't have the licence for them.

+1 move the problem sideways. He can't be pissed at you for not selling it to him if its a legal issue. Depends on how you put it too him. Although this will back fire if he goes elsewhere & they sell it too him.

In saying that, I wouldn't freak out too much about it mate. If the young fella does get his hands on a big bike he will soon forget that you denied him. If he is half a human he will know why & respect you for it

[FROSTY:Me]

where photos??
And we aren't the sharpest today...me old sprocket...are we??

uhh shi#$#

[Mully]

At least you still have the TRX to play on.....

Yeah, and pics or the girlfriend didn't happen.....

[Rockbuddy]

believe it or not there isn't a law stopping him from buying the bike.
The second the wheels are on public land he's breaking the law though

exactly right. so if you dont sell him the bike he will just go to somewhere like red barrons and buy one off them and you lose out on a sale, but you should feel good because you didnt sell him the bike that might kill him, or not.

[McDuck]

I would be inclined to make him put 10,000kms on a little bike first. Did you get the sale of the car?

[Ixion]

Bah. Humbug. You do realise , don't you, that when this sort of thing happens , I lose out on a commission from Gene-O-Kleen ("Evolution you can see - keeping the gene pool clean since 1903"). I'm just a poor old man etc etc, I rely on those commissions.

Once upon a time, you could just have wandered by the local snake shop, and arranged for y' friendly local snake to be at the yard when the young 'un came by again. Just by way of reminder , like. Nowadays, i dare say the cops would tell you to piss off.

[FROSTY:Me]

Bah. Humbug. You do realise , don't you, that when this sort of thing happens , I lose out on a commission from Gene-O-Kleen ("Evolution you can see - keeping the gene pool clean since 1903"). I'm just a poor old man etc etc, I rely on those commissions.

sorry ol son The thought did occur to me to for a nanosecond.
I thought about that nitrus gixxer thou to really do a good job

[scumdog]

Tell him "you obviously know nothing about riding, you've listened to nothing I said so go away, I don't need your death on my conscience"

In a nice way of course!

[Shadows]

A.
Back to the shop and we yarn some more and the young chap hauls a wad of cash out of pocket. "Yep I want that one" pointing to a much bigger more powerfull bike.

Call the police, he's obviously a drug dealer.

[mujambee]

Next time it happens, just show him this very thread. If it doesn't convince him that you are honest, probably nothing can do.

No sorry mate I will NOT sell him the bike.
If he goes somewhere else I can't stop him but Im not selling him a big bike.

That may have gotten you a customer anyway. If I manage to find a living in Auckland, I know who I'm going to buy my bikes from .

[LBD]

Doing the right thing is pretty obvious, how you present the right thing to the young man involved is the only question.

I for one, would hold you/your dealership in higher esteem than if you sold an oversize bike to an inexperienced rider, who not only risked his own welfare, but that of others on the road as well.

To knowingly sell a grossly unsuitable bike to an inexperienced rider would also be a breach of "duty of care"

Thats my 2 cents worth....

[triple-bee]

What he said, u gotta be able to sleep at night fuck the money

[Kflasher]

You could ask him to stop smoking, drinking and check his overall health… all his organs should be in a reasonable state at his age.
All in all he would seam to be the next ‘temporary kiwi’, ‘donor’ or ‘statistic’ which ever way you look at it.

As mentioned previously “show him this thread” it could be the wake up call he really needs… my 2 cents.

[Maki]

Interesting thread. It's good to see that people in this country have morals. There seems to be a lack of morals and sensible rules in some other countries. The stories you hear from the USA....; Girl, barely 20, walks in to dealership and looks at bikes, thinks the 250s looks like toys and rides away on a Hayabusa. How is that for morals?