KNOW WHAT PI##*S ME OFF?

**Aaron** · 7th March 2005, 15:42

Originally Posted by Motu

Such a wonderful idea - yes it worked! And because it worked in 2006 all vehicles are now going to have an emmissions test....guess who's going to pay for it? - yes,YOU!

Personally I'm in favor of the emmissions testing, so long as it's enforced.

Maybe... just maybe, the cost of regular services and keeping those eye sores running true will result in fewer numbers on the road. Unless you're an enthusiast most people wouldn't buy a vehicle that requires regular work, $$$, in order for it to maintain legal road status.

**Ixion** · 7th March 2005, 15:50

How are they ever going to pass an emissions test ?

**Wolf** · 7th March 2005, 15:56

Originally Posted by Ixion

How are they ever going to pass an emissions test ?

Wondered that myself.

I understand they're being banned in Europe. Piaggio has stopped making the Vespa 2-stroke scooters etc.

The new emission rules might mean a ban on 2-strokers.

Don't know for sure.

**c4.** · 7th March 2005, 16:44

Waaaayyy back in 1970, to drive a vehicle over 1.5 tonne you needed a H.T. License. The average weight of most of those vx cruisers, and pajeros ( the vehicle, not the driver of the vehicle) is up to 3-4 tonne.
How can LTSA put such a huge amount of attention on bikers, then let very unexperienced drivers loose in vehicles of such magnitude???????

**Indiana_Jones** · 7th March 2005, 16:46

Originally Posted by Eurodave

Riding around Christchurch, getting stuck behind bloody big 4X4's & buses with me sucking in their clouds of dirty black diesel fumes, isnt there a law against excessive engine smoke coming from poorly tuned mobile chicanes??

lol I know what you mean, I hate being stuck behind some smokey piece of shit, Plus I almost got taken out by an asian in a Big horn

that was scary lol

-Indy

**Motu** · 7th March 2005, 17:12

Originally Posted by Aaron

Personally I'm in favor of the emmissions testing, so long as it's enforced.

Maybe... just maybe, the cost of regular services and keeping those eye sores running true will result in fewer numbers on the road. Unless you're an enthusiast most people wouldn't buy a vehicle that requires regular work, $$$, in order for it to maintain legal road status.

The emission testing will be done on vehicles registerd after 2006,gradualy they will be brought in for older vehicles....if the vehicle didn't have to comply with emisions when built,it won't have to comply with them after 2006.So what vehicles are they? ....diesels....and motorcycles for a start,get those diesels off the road and you penalise the bikes.I agree with the dirty diesels to a certain degree - as I mentioned all diesels will smoke (white when cold,black under load) but not too excessivly,when I worked for a major trucking fleet with our own diesel shop we replaced injectors every 6 mths and reconed the injector pump every 12,we are talking big kms here though.

**Blakamin** · 7th March 2005, 17:38

why dont the exhausts just point up???? then they dont blow into face, into your windows and into your children....
why do buses (probably the worst culprits) and shitty rigid trucks point it directly at peoples window height??? why is this allowed?? If a car zorst pointed into another car they'd ban it....
I'd prefer my daughter not to have this crap aimed at her window everytime the mrs passes a bus...

**Ixion** · 7th March 2005, 17:59

Originally Posted by c4.

Waaaayyy back in 1970, to drive a vehicle over 1.5 tonne you needed a H.T. License. The average weight of most of those vx cruisers, and pajeros ( the vehicle, not the driver of the vehicle) is up to 3-4 tonne.
How can LTSA put such a huge amount of attention on bikers, then let very unexperienced drivers loose in vehicles of such magnitude???????

Easy. Cos there are very few SUV drivers killed. They just kill everybody else.

(Disclaimer : I myself drive a Pajero - the very old Dakar one. Sport it sure ain't , but I treat it with the gentleness that is required in a vehicle that can turn in 0 to 100 acceleration times in the sub 5's (5 hours that is !)

**Jackrat** · 7th March 2005, 19:08

Originally Posted by c4.

Waaaayyy back in 1970, to drive a vehicle over 1.5 tonne you needed a H.T. License. The average weight of most of those vx cruisers, and pajeros ( the vehicle, not the driver of the vehicle) is up to 3-4 tonne.
How can LTSA put such a huge amount of attention on bikers, then let very unexperienced drivers loose in vehicles of such magnitude???????

I don't know where you get your facts mate but mine was one of the early ones an wheighed just on one ton.
The newer models ain't that heavy.
3-4 tonne bugger off,my 17meter truck only wheighs 6 an it's a shit load bigger than ANY 4X4.
BTW you should see the black cloud I can make by ridding the engine brake an then giving the gas a kick as I pass a push bike.
Do it to bikers that tail gate me to.
Fucking exellent

**TonyB** · 7th March 2005, 19:16

Haven't read the whole post, so maybe someones mentioned it: theres a TV program about women who manage peoples rental properties- there was this young woman who was driving around in the rain, windows all badly misted up "I can't see a fucken thing" PEELING AN ORANGE WITH BOTH HANDS WHILE SHE WAS DRIVING. Stupid, stupid stupid!!! The narator didn't seem to think it was out of the ordinary...

**Jackrat** · 7th March 2005, 19:18

Originally Posted by Blakamin

why dont the exhausts just point up???? then they dont blow into face, into your windows and into your children....
why do buses (probably the worst culprits) and shitty rigid trucks point it directly at peoples window height??? why is this allowed?? If a car zorst pointed into another car they'd ban it....
I'd prefer my daughter not to have this crap aimed at her window everytime the mrs passes a bus...

Got a real low car mate,my exhaust is on the right side an it's about 1 foot off the road.
But on a slightly different subject,but not by much.
Was coming down the southern just this afternoon when I spot an Fxr Suzuki about to try splitting between the truck I was beside an myself.
Well my trailer is way over size and has many signs on it to say as much,but young bikers being the blind fucks they are this guy was going to give it a go anyway.So saved his life I did,flicked on the engine brake an tapped the gas,
Fuck he just about disapaired in the huge black cloud I dumped right in his lap.
He probably thinks I'm a cunt.
Odd that

**Blakamin** · 7th March 2005, 19:34

Originally Posted by Jackrat

Got a real low car mate,my exhaust is on the right side an it's about 1 foot off the road.

yeah.. the missus' mazda lantis is pretty low... actually lower than my cousins mr2...
that'd be a change coz the one on my work van is over a foot off the road... what about the trucks that have them exiting just behind the cab... at chassis level?

seeing as it is a truck, why doesn't the pipe run up??? wouldn't be hard to run behind the cab of 90% of trucks and up the back (on the inside) of buses.. they do it in other countries....
as for the other bit with the smoking-a-biker-on-purpose... anyone did that to me would end up with a broken truck...

**c4.** · 7th March 2005, 19:53

Originally Posted by Jackrat

I don't know where you get your facts mate but mine was one of the early ones an wheighed just on one ton.
The newer models ain't that heavy.
3-4 tonne bugger off,my 17meter truck only wheighs 6 an it's a shit load bigger than ANY 4X4.
BTW you should see the black cloud I can make by ridding the engine brake an then giving the gas a kick as I pass a push bike.
Do it to bikers that tail gate me to.
Fucking exellent

payload/ road user blow hard, you sound like quite the truckie a/hole I don't wanna be.

**Jackrat** · 7th March 2005, 20:48

Originally Posted by Blakamin

yeah.. the missus' mazda lantis is pretty low... actually lower than my cousins mr2...
that'd be a change coz the one on my work van is over a foot off the road... what about the trucks that have them exiting just behind the cab... at chassis level?

seeing as it is a truck, why doesn't the pipe run up??? wouldn't be hard to run behind the cab of 90% of trucks and up the back (on the inside) of buses.. they do it in other countries....
as for the other bit with the smoking-a-biker-on-purpose... anyone did that to me would end up with a broken truck...

Well I can understand your concerns on exhaust hight but I don't know the answer to that,you'd have to talk to LTSA or someone similar.
As to the comment about broken trucks,,,Would you rather see a broken biker.I know I wouldn't,he wasn't going to make it so I make no apoligies for that and I'll do it again in a flash.Car drivers ain't the only ones that don't see what's right in front of them,Next time he will just have to open his eyes.