NZ motorcycle media

[Big Dave]

come on down:

http://www.kiwirider.co.nz/contribute.html

[Bonez]

come on down:

http://www.kiwirider.co.nz/contribute.html

You seem to glean enough off the site anyway Dave.

You're absolutely right every make and model has a purpose.

[Okey Dokey]

I subscribe to a one NZ bike mag and pick up the occasional PB (Brit) I like the NZ mag for the ride reports, events & rallies, and not just the bike reviews. I generally read every word in it over the course of a month. Then I keep it in a pile with the others and sometimes go back to look at something I read earlier. i think it is neat that there are dirt bikes, sport bikes, cruisers and tourers all mixed up together. Not so sure about the scooters....

PB is very entertaining and funny in its style. I generally don't read the whole issue because the tech stuff doesn't interest me. My bike is plenty fast standard, I don't need more!

So it is horses for courses; NZ is a small market and bike mags probably need to be for a general audience to stay afloat. I think they are good value for money.

[Big Dave]

You seem to glean enough off the site anyway Dave.

One mans glean is another's share.

[Bonez]

One mans glean is another's share.

As long as you wear protection though.

[mikeey01]

OK even after allowing for the fact that some of the people will be enthusiasts, the mag isn't a charity. The mag has to be able to pay the bills and the staff need to eat.

Do you believe that?
Ha, another Tui ad for their marketing dept.

Tell ya what, go look at the Publishers parent company and take a look at their annual reports. I'm sure you'll see those huge profits and dividends paid like I did...
The ads pay the bills, fark me that's crap!
Ya don't make a fortune 500 company for just covering costs!

I understand any business, even a magazine has to make a profit, but then there's greed.
Me I'm sick of those pages and pages full of ads, hence why I said “I gave up on any mag that fills its pages with over 50% ads”.
Just to cover costs, yeah right!

Don't get me wrong, some ads I like but to full a mag with over 50% of it's content (that many) I'm over it!

Edit: Now this may be different for NZ mags to overseas mags, un-fair of me as I was looking at overseas mags. I'd say the NZ mags need the ad dollars the most, just to survive.

[Ixion]

One mans glean is another's share.

It's the publishing equivalent of the the theatre's "open in Wigan"

[Big Dave]

It's the publishing equivalent of the the theatre's "open in Wigan"

Get clogs on.

Random gives me the 'why don't you just google it'. I say 'I could - but I'd rather start a discussion'. For a number of reasons.

Gleanage...I guess sometimes. Not really the intent. Usually know the answer before I ask. Extensive library. PhD in google.

Mostly I like the different perspectives that can come up.

[Bonez]

Get clogs on.

Random gives me the 'why don't you just google it'. I asy 'I could - but I'd rather start a discussion'. For a number of reasons.

Gleaning...I guess sometimes. Mostly I know the answer before I ask. Extensive library. PhD in google.

Hey it makes sense to use all available resources.

How about a "Carvers Corner". Could be an amusing read.

[tri boy]

The local mags like KR and Bike etc do a bloody good job displaying whats available to the NZ riding fraternity.
If people wish to read about 300hp wop it up ya street bikes, then the world is full of such mags/articles/forums.
I prefer to live on NZ time.
Keeping the interest alive in NZ is what it's about.MHO

I'm sure Carver is quite able to write about riding in arseless chaps, while licking the pimply back of shit wiper on a hot summers night.
But who cares

[AllanB]

Shit Carver I presumed you got the Brit mags for the boobs.

One big issue with the Brit magazines I notice is that unless it is a top spec sports bike they tend to rubbish it - this Road King is shit for stunting........

No disrespect intended, but you'd find it near on impossible to get your recent review of the 1125 Buell published anywhere but the internet.

And I'd say that if you were a published scribe and experienced a Buell that was that bad, you'd call the supplier who would promptly wizz around with a replacement bike to set up for you. This happened with Cycle World when reviewing one of the Buells (can't recall which) when they had some issues - ended up with 3 bikes if I remember!

I mentioned your KB review as an example only, as a 'proper' reviewer finding the issues you stated with suspension set-up would have made adjustments in a attempt to sort them out. Plus one hour in the seat is not a review - it's a brief spin giving you a first impression - good or bad.

This is why motorcycle reviewers have the bike for some days.

By all accounts keep up your entertaining work - I'd personally like you to have your own talk-back hour on the radio in the evening when the kids are in bed - it would be a good laugh.

[SARGE]

Big Dave died in a fire and his body was burned pretty badly.

The morgue needed someone to identify the body, so they sent for his two best friends, 'SARGE' and 'fire eyes'.

'There goes Big Dave with them two arseholes.'

i wear my ASSHOLE badge proudly.. took alot of work to get this damn good at it ..


you should see me in traffic

[Bonez]

By all accounts keep up your entertaining work - I'd personally like you to have your own talk-back hour on the radio in the evening when the kids are in bed - it would be a good laugh.

I second that idea.

Those who agree say ey, those the disagree nah..................

Eys have it.

Motion carried.

Next item on the agenda is...........................

[pritch]

Ya don't make a fortune 500 company for just covering costs!

KiwiRider is a Fortune 500 company?

Shit oh dear, I'll have to give it more respect...

[carver]

Mormons.
I think they have talent. Cinematography is real good and they are producing a style of entertainment popular in their generation.

I don't know for sure, but I suspect the moment they put their real names and addresses on the kind of stuff that they will need to do if they want to go 'mainstream' - then it won't be very long before the litigation will start.
Harley come after people for trade mark violations. 'Urinal' they might take exception to if it's published with an address.

Top Gear has BBC lawyers, KB's the Mormon beak?

hmmmm, yes, we don not want to disclose who we are, were pretty secretive for that reason.

thanks on the comments on our filming, yes, we are very much aimed at our generation, but our demo-graph is the 30-50 year old men!
i dont think much of my stuff to be honest, i want so much better, but resources are so limited-for now

Hey it makes sense to use all available resources.

How about a "Carvers Corner". Could be an amusing read.

I think legal issues could arise after showing nude wheelies past schools.

I'm sure Carver is quite able to write about riding in arseless chaps, while licking the pimply back of shit wiper on a hot summers night.
But who cares

You will be reminded of these words very soon.

Shit Carver I presumed you got the Brit mags for the boobs.

One big issue with the Brit magazines I notice is that unless it is a top spec sports bike they tend to rubbish it - this Road King is shit for stunting........

No disrespect intended, but you'd find it near on impossible to get your recent review of the 1125 Buell published anywhere but the internet.

And I'd say that if you were a published scribe and experienced a Buell that was that bad, you'd call the supplier who would promptly wizz around with a replacement bike to set up for you. This happened with Cycle World when reviewing one of the Buells (can't recall which) when they had some issues - ended up with 3 bikes if I remember!

I mentioned your KB review as an example only, as a 'proper' reviewer finding the issues you stated with suspension set-up would have made adjustments in a attempt to sort them out. Plus one hour in the seat is not a review - it's a brief spin giving you a first impression - good or bad.

This is why motorcycle reviewers have the bike for some days.

By all accounts keep up your entertaining work - I'd personally like you to have your own talk-back hour on the radio in the evening when the kids are in bed - it would be a good laugh.

haha, thank you, i just like being rude, causing arguments, and stirring up trouble, thats the truth.
but the buell was shit, i just said it in a very harsh way.

i know my style does not appeal to everyone, but thats what i like!