Police get riders at over 200 km/h

[pritch]

shit you must be realy old then

No, he's just a boy.

[DougieNZ]

SPEED DOES NOT KILL... THE SUDDEN IMPACT DOES..

Unbelieveable...

Speed affects the time you have to avoid the impact. It also affects the distance you travel before you react. NO QUESTION. Therefore SPEED DOES KILL!

I have read the many pages of debate. I still remain firm in the view that 211km/h is not a speed we should condone people travelling at.

Nor should we condone the running from the police. If you travel at that speed and get caught - man(or woman) up and take the consequences .

If you cant afford to use the racetrack, then don't travel at 200km/h!

Don't get me wrong. I have exceeded the speed limit myself. But when I do so, I understand that I am potentially putting myself and/or other users at risk. I also understand that my reaction distance will be affected.

But, sorry, 211km/h on a main public highway is absolutely taking the piss.

[bounce]

so what sort of fine/licence disqualification can these guys expect? I'm ignorant as to how the court appearance thing works.

[3umph]

Unbelieveable...

Speed affects the time you have to avoid the impact. It also affects the distance you travel before you react. NO QUESTION. Therefore SPEED DOES KILL!

Speed it self does not kill.... if it did then there would not be as many people around.... yeah you are probably more likely to have come off not to good if something happen... in which things happen quicker at speed

so what speed actually kills???? is it 110kph or 128kph or is it 212kph

I still say its the impact that kills... yes the impact is greater as the speed rises but how many people have walked away from a horrendous fast crash with out a mark and others are killed with fuck all damage done at slower speeds???

If speed kills then I sould of been dead 20+ years ago.....

I have read the many pages of debate. I still remain firm in the view that 211km/h is not a speed we should condone people travelling at.

who said we/they condone the speed that they were traveling at???
it happens and it will keep happening...
I think that those speeds would be hit more then a lot of people would like to think and admitt to on the open roads of NZ...

Nor should we condone the running from the police. If you travel at that speed and get caught - man(or woman) up and take the consequences .

want to do the crime then you have to suffer the consequences... end of story... good on the pair for stopping

If you cant afford to use the racetrack, then don't travel at 200km/h!

ok I'll only stick to 199kph then... I suggest all others do as well

Don't get me wrong. I have exceeded the speed limit myself. But when I do so, I understand that I am potentially putting myself and/or other users at risk. I also understand that my reaction distance will be affected.

and I'd say just about everyone else does as well... I sure as well know I do and over the years I have done some fairly good fast times from town to town travel around the south island on bikes and in cages... so far the last time I look that I was not dead...

But, sorry, 211km/h on a main public highway is absolutely taking the piss.

only because they got caught... as said before it would probably be amazing how many times the magic 200kph mark is broken...

Fuck it I need a new bike now.... 300kph sounds a better number now

[jafar]

so what sort of fine/licence disqualification can these guys expect? I'm ignorant as to how the court appearance thing works.

Ballpark figure of 6 months disqualification with a 28 days stand down effective from the time they are stopped on the side of the road.
Bike(s) impounded for 28 days (about $400.00 in storage fees)
+ they have to hope the judge had a blowjob the night before otherwise the fines will be over the top. Fines seem to vary somewhat but $1,000.00 would be close. If they have previous convictions then the fines may be more.

When they do get their licence's back they will be virtually uninsurable for several years to come. No insurance on a bike/car = no hire purchase deals.

[3umph]

so what sort of fine/licence disqualification can these guys expect? I'm ignorant as to how the court appearance thing works.

I'd say it depends on the Judge on the day....

[Ixion]

Don't get me wrong. I have exceeded the speed limit myself. .

You hard case bad-ass rebel you.

[smoky]

And if you take an innocent life at the same time, I'll call you a cocksucker at your funeral.

Why would you be at my funeral?
And you don't speed at all?
Or make mistakes on your bike (or car) that has put people at risk?

You realise your over pretentious bullshit stance makes you stand out as a hypocrite

Anything can go wrong on the road at 80klm/hr, 110klm/hr, 120klm/hr and you take an innocent life. Do 80klm/hr in town and your more likely to hurt someone else if you come off, do 50klm/hr in rush hour traffic lane splitting and hit a pedestrian!

Riding a bike is exposing yourself to more risk, but being selective with when & where you use speed can reduce that risk somewhat

[Leyton]

15:03 16/04/2009 - stuff.co.nz

Motorcyclists caught doing over 200kmh told police they were on their way to Kaikoura "for a coffee" when they were stopped.

The pair were caught going 211kmh on State Highway 1, between Parnassus and Hundalee, during Operation Tahi, which was targeting high-risk behaviour on the South Island's main road, Canterbury road policing acting manager Neville Hyland said.

The motorcyclists had their licences suspended for 28 days and would appear in court at a later date , Mr Hyland said.

"Motorcyclists are some of the most vulnerable road users in New Zealand and are over-represented in crash statistics," he said.

There were plenty of clubs with access to race tracks for people who wanted to travel at these speeds, he said.

During the operation in the first week of April, police issued 448 tickets, which added to the 355 tickets issued during the same operation in March, Mr Hyland said.

NZPA


.. I can think of no better excuse myself COFFEEE COFFEEEEEE

[3umph]

there is a wee bit of discussion about it here

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...ad.php?t=97300

[Grahameeboy]

15:03 16/04/2009 - stuff.co.nz

Motorcyclists caught doing over 200kmh told police they were on their way to Kaikoura "for a coffee" when they were stopped.

The pair were caught going 211kmh on State Highway 1, between Parnassus and Hundalee, during Operation Tahi, which was targeting high-risk behaviour on the South Island's main road, Canterbury road policing acting manager Neville Hyland said.

The motorcyclists had their licences suspended for 28 days and would appear in court at a later date , Mr Hyland said.

"Motorcyclists are some of the most vulnerable road users in New Zealand and are over-represented in crash statistics," he said.

There were plenty of clubs with access to race tracks for people who wanted to travel at these speeds, he said.

During the operation in the first week of April, police issued 448 tickets, which added to the 355 tickets issued during the same operation in March, Mr Hyland said.

NZPA


.. I can think of no better excuse myself COFFEEE COFFEEEEEE

Imagine how fast they would have gone if they had had a coffee....

[3umph]

Imagine how fast they would have gone if they had had a coffee....

should of told the cop they were just going to get him some donuts...

would of got off with a warning

[Leyton]

hehe donuts could have worked

Anyways I better get to work, ie... Trying to get into my office building on Tristram street...

Might take my tv aerial and watch the races But pfft cars

[Grahameeboy]

I knew that was coming.

Sorry, but you are never going to convince me that doing 211km/h on a public highway is "safe".

Basic science says that reaction distance is severely increased at these speeds.

Lets put a scenario. Person in Mini pulls out of a side road in a 100km/h area after looking right to see whether the way is clear. Dickhead motorcyclist comes round the corner at 200km/h and hits the Mini and kills both himself and the driver of the Mini. At 100km/h he would have easily been available to slow down and/or avoid the incident.

Now a test - if your family member was driving the mini... what would your thoughts be?

Sorry, but 211km/h is for the racetrack...

And before the other naysayers chip in... yes I am assuming that they are guilty....

I am 46, have a Daughter, had one accident in 1985 when hit by hit and run and was hit in the rear the other week...I have exceeded 200kph...like last Sunday..just for a short burst...I am not an idiot...it was safe because it was a straight road...no cars, no houses...I did not endanger anyone...I have done 54,000k's since April 2005 and was hit in the rear at 0mph the other week

At worse I am a safe dick head...

[Mikkel]

But I disagree with one thing (this is after wasting an hour of my life at a council meeting tonight), our fellow Kiwi's are fucking apathetic, and wouldn't get up to change channels, let alone change laws.

Considering you've got umpteen channels of utter shite to choose from there's hardly a surprise there?

Maybe that's how they do it. Broadcast profoundly vacuous programs on numerous channels 24/7 just to teach us that even if we try to change anything it'll just be the same shit with a different label?

Now ya talking,the whole 300 click thing gets interesting,plenty on here have doneno doubt..hey its the interweb and this is a bike forum.Anyone know the equation when speeds get up there ie horsepower needed v speed achieved,read a bit of it years ago in a Bonneville article,roughly twice the hp needed v momentum?

Streamlining is the way to go - Burt Munro would have had ~200 hps at the wheel on his old Indian, still broke the 300 km/h barrier. At those speeds aerodynamics are very important, an unstable design will start to wobble or tear itself to pieces.

But all other things equal, what jrandom said is correct. Twice as fast will need 8 times as much power.

Ballpark figure of 6 months disqualification with a 28 days stand down effective from the time they are stopped on the side of the road.
Bike(s) impounded for 28 days (about $400.00 in storage fees)
+ they have to hope the judge had a blowjob the night before otherwise the fines will be over the top. Fines seem to vary somewhat but $1,000.00 would be close. If they have previous convictions then the fines may be more.

That's a fucking bargain! You should see the fines they throw around elsewhere - e.g. a 3 months salary fine.

Don't think they can impound their vehicles though. Only breach of boyracer statutes and driving while disqualified will see your vehicle impounded.