Remove your helmet

[HenryDorsetCase]

I had to shout at a moron* on Saturday afternoon at the BP because the drone failed to turn the tap on to make fuel come out the nozzle. I only went to that BP because it was 30 secs more convenient than my usual Shell.

Lesson learned. Vote with wallet.




*Oi, turn the fucking pump on!!!! that got their attention because the forecourt was busy.

[MSTRS:Me]

The reality is that the margin on a fuel purchase made by a motorcyclist would be unlikely to cover the overheads involved in the sale process.

Those delicate and outraged bikers who determine to take their business elsewhere will not be missed.

Excuse me? Overheads? Does the till jockey 'work' for free when no sales are happening? Is the power to the chillers/pie-warmer/lights/etc only charged when a customer walks in? And so on...
Overheads are there, whether someone buys gas or not.

[Oscar]

The reality is that the margin on a fuel purchase made by a motorcyclist would be unlikely to cover the overheads involved in the sale process.

Those delicate and outraged bikers who determine to take their business elsewhere will not be missed.

The reality is that most motorcyclists have a car as well and are no longer the stereotypical motorcyclist of the past. Far from being an economic non-entity, there is a large sub-set of older riders whose income is distinctly above average and who are discerning shoppers.

The reality is also that anyone with that sort of attitude will not last long in business.

[skidMark]

They used to hate it when i bought in my pit bike and put in $4 gas to fill it up....

[ManDownUnder]

Gee... I always thought it was polite to remove your helmet when talking to people. Like mirrored sunglasses.

What's the big deal? Do people feel threatened or belittled when asked to take their helmets off, is it really such a big deal? Is it an anti bike thing...

You'd better stop going into banks too then - they get a bit itchy about people wearing helmets. Or try it at a chemist. I'm willing to bet if you walked into the cop shop they'd ask you to remove it as well. How about in a court of law?

Fuck's sake. Get over it.

[3Banger]

I reckon that anyone who finds it stink that have to take their helmet off in a garage or shop would have to be the following 3 things:

1/ An ugly fucker

2/ Have A.D.D, ''oh look at me everyone, I ride a motor bike... do I have your attention?''

3/ A fuckwit

[3Banger]

[QUOTE=ManDownUnder;1129217273]

You'd better stop going into banks too then - they get a bit itchy about people wearing helmets. Or try it at a chemist. I'm willing to bet if you walked into the cop shop they'd ask you to remove it as well. How about in a court of law?

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You cant walk into our local Wespac bank now wearing sun glasses or a cap.

Fair enuff too, there seems to be alot of idiots out there who value 5 dollars over some ones life

[Ragingrob]

I reckon that anyone who finds it stink that have to take their helmet off in a garage or shop would have to be the following 3 things:

1/ An ugly fucker

2/ Have A.D.D, ''oh look at me everyone, I ride a motor bike... do I have your attention?''

3/ A fuckwit

1/ So aren't they doing the world a favour?

2/ Do the full leathers not kinda give it away and ask for attention anyway?

3/ Care to elaborate?

[JimO]

'I...I thing, Zir, you cash car din were!'

We solved the prob. All this over $5-75. Apparently, I'd failed to press 'enter'.

It's a big cultural difference, eh? For $5-75 I'd have just thought" what the hell". But in Asian society, the loss of such a sum is, apparently, near Titanic in proportion.



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you would be crying like a fucking baby if they short changed you $5.75...fucking asians trying to rob me

[MarkH]

Excuse me? Overheads? Does the till jockey 'work' for free when no sales are happening? Is the power to the chillers/pie-warmer/lights/etc only charged when a customer walks in? And so on...
Overheads are there, whether someone buys gas or not.

So true, the cost per sale is almost nothing. The cost per hour/day/week/month is what would concern the owners. The more petrol sold per week the more income to cover those costs. The more dozens of bikers buying elsewhere the less money coming in to cover rent/wages/power/etc. The more customers that come into the shop to pay the more pies/chocolate/etc they sell.

The idea of customers in their droves heading to the competition not worrying the petrol station owner is a ludicrous one. Losing a sale means very little, but losing a customer means a lot of money per year is lost. I live in Auckland - I have plenty of choices of where to fill up. I usually go to one station where they give me no problems - I never prepay and the gas always gets turned on (car or bike). They keep me happy and I keep coming back and spending my money there.

[3Banger]

1/ yep good call

2/ lets say fuckwit is wearing a t-shirt, shorts and running shoes

3/ a fuckwit will argue about removing a helmet, it aint that hard

[Ixion]

Gee... I always thought it was polite to remove your helmet when talking to people. Like mirrored sunglasses.

What's the big deal? Do people feel threatened or belittled when asked to take their helmets off, is it really such a big deal? Is it an anti bike thing...

You'd better stop going into banks too then - they get a bit itchy about people wearing helmets. Or try it at a chemist. I'm willing to bet if you walked into the cop shop they'd ask you to remove it as well. How about in a court of law?

Fuck's sake. Get over it.

Perhaps some of the issue is in the manner of asking? There is a big difference between "Excuse me Sir, I'm required by company policy to ask you to remove your helmet, please" ; and "Get your helmet off NOW".

I remember when men all wore hats. And it was considered bad manners not to remove ones hat during social interaction . So, a court will require you to remove your helmet. But, likewise it will require you to remove your hat.

So, from a courtesy point of view the question is whether the brief transaction of paying for petrol should be classified as social interaction. It seems doubtful.

I've never really understood what the big deal is. A few robber type persons have worn helmets. So? More wear hoodies or beanies or balaclavas. And as folk have noted, in most cases the bona fides of the customer are not in doubt.

I'm reasonably confident that every robber who has worn a helmet has also worn trousers. Should we offer to remove those also?

[Oscar]

Gee... I always thought it was polite to remove your helmet when talking to people. Like mirrored sunglasses.

What's the big deal? Do people feel threatened or belittled when asked to take their helmets off, is it really such a big deal? Is it an anti bike thing...

You'd better stop going into banks too then - they get a bit itchy about people wearing helmets. Or try it at a chemist. I'm willing to bet if you walked into the cop shop they'd ask you to remove it as well. How about in a court of law?

Fuck's sake. Get over it.

Politeness is a two way thing normally, and the point of my earlier rant is that some Gas Stations wouldn't know service if it bit them on their Corporate arses.

This story is also about choice.

The fact is, I usually take my helmet off, but occasionally I'm in a hurry.
The fact is also that my local G.A.S place don't give a rats either way and doesn't have an annoying prepay policy. So I shop there.

And when I'm in Town, I avoid BP Stations. I go to the Caltex in Dinsdale because they treat me like a human, and not an unwelcome interruption to Coffee sales.

[Ragingrob]

1/ yep good call

2/ lets say fuckwit is wearing a t-shirt, shorts and running shoes

3/ a fuckwit will argue about removing a helmet, it aint that hard

1/

2/ Sounds like a scooter rider, or indeed a fuckwit yes.

3/ Sure it ain't hard, but it ain't hard to just let them pay and be on their way either, in fact, it's easier!

[BMWST?]

So true, the cost per sale is almost nothing. The cost per hour/day/week/month is what would concern the owners. The more petrol sold per week the more income to cover those costs. The more dozens of bikers buying elsewhere the less money coming in to cover rent/wages/power/etc. The more customers that come into the shop to pay the more pies/chocolate/etc they sell.

The idea of customers in their droves heading to the competition not worrying the petrol station owner is a ludicrous one. Losing a sale means very little, but losing a customer means a lot of money per year is lost. I live in Auckland - I have plenty of choices of where to fill up. I usually go to one station where they give me no problems - I never prepay and the gas always gets turned on (car or bike). They keep me happy and I keep coming back and spending my money there.

droves? so far we are talking about 50 people country wide.