Traffic Lights that don't give u your turn

[James Deuce]

See? :spudwhat:

That isn't evidence, it's an opinion.

The bouncing up and down probably brought the ferrous components of the bike closer to the induction loop, triggering the correct phase cycle.

[Ixion]

They rely, I believe on *movement* of a ferrous mass. Movement of iron within an inductive loop generates a (very tiny) electric current. This current is picked up by the control circuits.

Bouncing a bike makes its iron parts move around a bit, thus helping to generate that required current. Ditto putting the bike in gear (sets steel gearwheels moving) .

Unfortunately, bikes have very little iron on them in camparison to a car. Alloy wheels, alloy frames (like as not), alloy engine casings. Only iron is crankshaft assembly and gearbox. Not enough to trigger the circuits .

[Will]

Thanks guys, very entertaining.

I just turn my bike off ... and then back on again.

But I think you know that any way. Just being creative

[spudchucka]

at least if a coppa comes up you have a good excuse and I think he/she would let you off. spudchucker got any thoughts on that?

Not really. If the lights won't change for me when I'm on a bike I just make sure the road is clear, (as in there are no cops in any direction that might see me going through a red light), and carry on.

I've come across a few bikers that have been stuck sitting at red lights that won't change and asked them why they didn't just go. For some reason they seem have all had a suspicious look come over there faces and not answered the question.

[Wolf]

On a related note, a mate of mine from the Netherlands (Friesian, not Dutch, as she kept pointing out) informed me that in the Netherlands their lights go on a night-time circuit that sets certain lights green and flashes the red cross-wise to them. The flashing red is a "compulsory stop" - you stop, check the road and, if there is no traffic coming, you go, just like at a stop sign. No penalty for going through a flashing red with proper care.

Saves a lot of fucking around with sensors - timed sequence during the day, "compulsory stops" at night.

I've often thought we could do with something like that here in NZ - of course, it would be just one more thing to confuse the cagers who haven't seemed to have mastered the "complexity" of roundabouts and give-way rules.

For Victoria Street area, I'd borrow a leaf from Leamington's book - alternate the lights at each block - this one you have right of way, this one, you stop. (Leamington alternates the give-ways on most its blocks to give everyone a fair go)

That would be so the boi racers can only speed along two blocks, maximum, rather than screaming down most of Victoria Street from the roundabout to Whitiora.

[Waylander]

Had these back in the states both the wieght activated and the magnetic loop. I just flashed my brights fast and they change. Don't know how that would work here but in most big cities in the states all the lights have sensors on them that read the light pattern off of emergency vehicals and it causes a change. So juat a quik couple of flashes and off I go.

[crashe]

It happens to me heaps.. my bike aint heavy enough..lol.

So as I come up to certain lights I stand up and then bounce down onto the seat as I stop... hoping that by doing that it would look like there is extra weight ...lol. Still working on that theroy....lol

Today it happened and I didnt bouce and the lights didnt change... and a big 4x4 came up behind me... but they parked miles away from the lights...
I signaled for them to move up closer.... eventually they got the idea... and when they did wohoooo the lights changed GREEN.. after I had sat throu 2 sets of lights....

I was told by a cop that after 3 sets of lights to go throu them carefully and safely..

Lights are a right pain in the butt when they wont change to green.. and miss you out completely.....

[Risky]

In a past life as a motorcycle courier, I learned that the inductive loop [the wire loop that triggers the lights] is usually visible up the front of the lane as a square line of sealing tar surrounding about 75% of the width of the lane.

If you run through the centre of the loop, it can't sense you.
If you run along the edge of the loop, more chance that it can.
The faster you run along the edge, the better.

So my advice is to stick to the right-hand car tyre tracks [usually the safest place on the road anyway] and don't creep over the loop - move swiftly along the right edge of the loop and stop beyond it, if completely safe.

Thanks for reading.

[FEINT]

thanks for the advice!

I was driving the cage yesterday and coming down Wakefield St and turning Right on to Queen St. There was a BMW motorbike at the start of the lights and he was on the inductive loop. We waited there for 3 sets of lights and a massive queue built up behind as the lights just kept missing. Finally he realised and moved forward and asked the cage behind him to move forward. After that, the lights changed and we were on our way. :spudbooge

[pyrocam]

thanks for the advice!

I was driving the cage yesterday and coming down Wakefield St and turning Right on to Queen St. There was a BMW motorbike at the start of the lights and he was on the inductive loop. We waited there for 3 sets of lights and a massive queue built up behind as the lights just kept missing. Finally he realised and moved forward and asked the cage behind him to move forward. After that, the lights changed and we were on our way. :spudbooge

I have a thought. I think I may be right

even if the suposed inductive loop doesnt pick you up. It changes after the 3rd cycle anyway, I mean, it would be good programming incase the inductive loop failed or it was a vehicle that couldnt set it off. if anyone is interested in pissing off some cagers: stop at every lights you can do at the front of the queue, dont rev, dont bounce and dont flash. maybe even avoid the middle 75% of the lane to avoid it and see how long you wait before the change. Of couse Im pretty sure this will only work on right turning lanes.

thoughts ppl?

ps thanks for your response spud

[BNZ]

You let us know how that goes

[Mr Skid]

..if anyone is interested in pissing off some cagers: stop at every lights you can do at the front of the queue, dont rev, dont bounce and dont flash. maybe even avoid the middle 75% of the lane to avoid it and see how long you wait before the change...

..thoughts ppl?..

If you do decide to give it a go, let me know which ward to send to flowers to.

[moko]

burn-outs sometimes work too, but I'm not saying how I know..

Says the guy who posted in another thread wondering why his consumables dont last long

[moko]

A lot of lights here now also have sensors that take your picture if you go through a red light so you`re stuffed both ways.I use the main road through the city at early-morning hours and sitting at red lights at -3 at 2a.m.waiting for the traffic to exit from the swimming pool, which all ended when the friggin place shut 8 hours earlier,is a real bummer.

[crashe]

Someone above said that it WILL change after 3 sets of lights....
ummm I dont think so...
I have patiently sat for 4 or 5 sets once...
but then I thought Fark this.. and rode off...
made sure that it was safe...lol.

I only wait for 3 sets now and then ride on throu if they wont change....

Sheesh scooters must sit there for ages as they are alot lighter than my bike...lol.