Should 4x4's be taxed higher?

[gamgee]

#1 they are heavier so wear the roads out more

#2 in an accident they cause more serious injuries to whatever they hit (pedestrians other car occupants motorcylists etc.) or if they roll over the occupants so the ACC component should be higher as it is with motorbikes

#3 government should be encouraging more economical forms of transport so should introduce a pollution tax

of course this shouldn't apply to farm vehicles, and there should be exemption where there is a clear case for the owner needing a 4x4, but should be used to discourage the use of SUV's around towns

[Hitcher]

Tax them out of existence. They're trucks, not cars. People should have to get special licenses to drive them. Downtown areas and parking facilities should have a steel bar set at about 1.8m high across the entranceway. Hah. And as for bull-bars, they should be illegal. If SUVs weren't generally driven by kindy mums they would be symptomatic of VSP Disease. Apart from the small ones that are driven by hairdressers.

[sunhuntin]

im all for it. hate the damn things. when they angle park, you cant see past to exit. you get a faceful of exhaust when stopped behind them, and DONT even get me started on CHECKING THE OIL AND WATER!!! those things were NOT designed for short asses.

[onearmedbandit]

#1 They pay more tax through higher petrol usage.
#2 They save money on the health system by better protecting the occupants inside, and ensure a continuing supply for funeral houses for those outside of them.
#3 The government should not be involved in such decisions!

LMFAO, lets see the fish bite now!

(btw, #2 was a pisstake, I have to go out now but couldn`t resist stirring the pot before I left!)

[Motu]

And the diesel's pay a high road user charge,regardless of size.I'm safe in my Pajero - I don't give a fuck about you so long as I survive.

[gamgee]

whats the point in posting a rark and telling everyone it's a rark?

[Hitcher]

Some people don't get sarcasm. Not unless it has a smilie...

[gamgee]

And the diesel's pay a high road user charge,regardless of size.I'm safe in my Pajero - I don't give a fuck about you so long as I survive.

and that is the number 1 reason to hate 4wd owners, it's all about number one, if everyone drove normal cars we would all be better off
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXeKSDpFjlg
it's a case of the old prisoners dillema, we can all drive cars that will give us good protection in an nose to tail prang etc or some prat can go out and buy something that will probably kill the other party in a small accident

[Jantar]

A 4x4 is the most suitable cage for my use. And I don't want to own 2 cages.

#1 they are heavier so wear the roads out more

That is why I pay a higher RUC based on weight.

#2 in an accident they cause more serious injuries to whatever they hit (pedestrians other car occupants motorcylists etc.) or if they roll over the occupants so the ACC component should be higher as it is with motorbikes

No, they cause less injuries to the occupants. however I do agree that the ACC levy for all vehicles should be the same.

#3 government should be encouraging more economical forms of transport so should introduce a pollution tax

What could be more economical than my 4x4 for towing the horse float, travelling to work in winter when it is snowing, towing the trailer around my paddocks, going to the city by cage 2 to 3 times a year?

of course this shouldn't apply to farm vehicles, and there should be exemption where there is a clear case for the owner needing a 4x4, but should be used to discourage the use of SUV's around towns

Ahhh, you have almost redeemed yourself. The exemption should be in the licence requirements. Just lower the weight limits for requiring a HT licence to 2000 kg and no more problems.

[Jantar]

....They're trucks, not cars. People should have to get special licenses to drive them. ....

I have no problem with this solution. Mine is insured as a light truck anyway.

[Motu]

and that is the number 1 reason to hate 4wd owners, it's all about number one, if everyone drove normal cars we would all be better off

If you don't look out for No1 you are dead....you ride a bike remember? If you don't ride for your own preservation you are dead.I don't give a fuck about you,if I survive any accident,bike,pedestrian,car or 4x4 I reckon I'm doing well.A 4x4 just ramps me up the survival list.

[Big Dave]

If you have a legitimate use, tow something, live up shit street, whatever, and they are the most appropriate vehicle - I'm glad it's you paying for the fuel - party on.

If you are in the thing because it's up high or you see it as some sort of status symbol or performance vehicle and it goes as far off road as by the beach a Kohe - yer a dick wasting resources when there are more appropriate solutions.

[Quasievil]

WTF, you in government or something, we Kiwis pay enough Tax thanks very much.
If they start taxing 4X4, then they will think mmmm that was easy, now what other group can we tax, I KNOW BIKES, they are represented in some stat somewhere , "LETS GET EM "

FUCKEN HELL !!


(spoken after getting 4 letters from IRD in one week, all wanting money for dufferent reasons )

[Big Dave]

NSW registration fees and taxes are calculated on gross vehicle weight. Works for me.

[dogsnbikes]

As 4x4 owner,I feel that the prices are high enoughwhen paying on gross weight ........as I live in country its a suitable cage for me and having a St Bernard in a toymota just doesn't work

I dont see the need of a 4x4 to get to the cuba street or queen street office as a necessity.......so I agree they have no place in the cities

and if people stopped driving there 4x4's as a WRX we would be better off but hey something has to give them thier ego boost

its something that needs to be educated into people and higher taxes just means more people dodging the system so taxing isnt a solution