I'm not going to agree with or dispute your above comment. I do realise that some women get terribly carried away and accuse everyone of being sexist.
I'm simply trying to determine (for my own curiosity) how a women's track day is deemed to be discriminatory, when an event like the Special K Duathlon isn't. One would assume that this event wouldn't exist, let alone be allowed to run, if it was discriminatory.
This isn't going to be as issue considering I'm not organising one!
Oh, by the way, I did the women's day on the old Taupo track so it would've been viable. It cost me a whopping $30 and we only had about 30 women! I have no idea if the organisers even covered their costs.
Since you seem to have ignored the second paragraph of my post. I'll multi it for ya. I have no real problem with girl only track days, but in an effort not to be an hypocrate (spelling), I must oppose it. I would go fuckin APE SHIT over a Maori only track day, and European only track day for that matter. I'm not saying I obey every law all the time, but think about the relevence of a speed limit to a discrimenantly run event. There is none, I agree with one, and refuse to comment on the other, for fear of self incrimination.
I have no problem with a womens only track day, or a mens only track day. or a womens only gym or, or a mens only gym, or a womans only bog, or a mens only bog....(I real glad they sometimes have womens only ones coz they aint Pooey!).
Anyways.....I do know some women that went to a womens only track day, I wasn't there so can't comment too much, but I know they had a great time, and learnt alot. Tis a free country and we should have free opportunity to choose, I personally prefer to ride with males because they are the ones that have quite possibly taught me everything I know about riding. However....if that chick that races the Aprilia over in Europe should visit down under....I'd be happy to pay money to learn a few things from her. (bet you guys would pay just to follow her around the track hehehe)
I understand completly why beginner track riding women would like to have there own day. I personaly recal my first ever time on the track, and It was daunting when you don't know the lines/braking markers etc. As a female amongst males I was concerned that I was mucking up there lines, and was worried I was in their way. Nothing personal against any of them at all, just that I felt they were all so much better than me, and their track knowledge was superior, therefore......what the hell was I doing out there!! lol. And feeling like the underdog, makes your confidence level drop a bit more, but there support and helpful advice made me feel at ease. And I learnt so much from sticking with them.....(well...trying too!)
I don't know if a womens only day would be supported enough to make it a viable venture (so fewer women than men, and the cost of track hirage etc.) Perhaps a track day with a session availible for first timers may be a good idea? just to help them get the feel of track riding without peer pressure, though I think it's the experienced folk that are actually going to help you the most.
As long as men and women are having fun, then please don't try and put either down for their requests. If women or men are happy to attend and pay for a single sex track day.....surely it is their own reasons for doing so that others need to respect. No-one is making it compulsory.
Sounds like a good idea to me, can I be the pitboy?![]()
Let me rewrite this to make it relevant to me. Although I am copying your text it is still true.
I understand completly why beginner track riding newbies would like to have there own day. I personaly recal my first ever time on the track, and It was daunting when you don't know the lines/braking markers etc. As a newbie rider amongst more experienced riders I was concerned that I was mucking up there lines, and was worried I was in their way. Nothing personal against any of them at all, just that I felt they were all so much better than me, and their track knowledge was superior, therefore......what the hell was I doing out there!! lol. And feeling like the underdog, makes your confidence level drop a bit more, but there support and helpful advice made me feel at ease. And I learnt so much from sticking with them.....(well...trying too!)
That is what the slow/novice group is for. There is no need for a womans only trackday. If a trackday is organised I would much prefer seeing as many *bikers* out there as possible.
The argument that men give unwanted advice doesn't stand because men can't give advice while on the track. Make your own section in the pits or learn how to say shut the fuck up I dont like what you are telling me. Either way, no need to not allow men on the track.
The woman feel intimidated on the track with men because men are faster and more experienced doesnt stack up either because there are plenty of woman who are more than capable of throwing a good time round the track and those who are slower or new it is not because you are woman that you feel nervous, it is because you are new.
Anyone would think being a woman is a disability the way some people go on around here.
the concept is fine but it just seems to be a waste of a perfectly good track day to limit who can come along (do you normally have too many people to let everyone in?)
it seems to me:
a) the more the merrier
b) you should try and let everybody get as much tracktime as you can
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cut it out... cant have anyone popping some sense into this thread.
you should. fantastic to go out there and know for sure that there are no on coming cars/horsefloats. There are only a few corners you have to learn and once you work out which way the track goes it is all about you and your bike and the learning really begins.
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