View Poll Results: What is your position, as a voter, on cannabis law reform?

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  • I use cannabis, and I would give the ALCP my party vote.

    10 6.85%
  • I use cannabis, but I don't want to waste my party vote on a single-issue party.

    31 21.23%
  • I don't use cannabis, but I support legalisation and would give the ALCP my party vote.

    7 4.79%
  • I don't use cannabis. I don't oppose legalisation, but won't waste my party vote supporting it.

    55 37.67%
  • I don't use cannabis, and I oppose legalisation.

    43 29.45%
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    Quote Originally Posted by smoky View Post


    But... but thats what it's all about - having an opinion!!! if you only want impartial views you'll have a very boring thread.

    You name it; I've probably tried it. Back in the 70's I started on pot, big fucking deal. I checked out smack, thought it was so bloody good I didn't make a 'habit' of it coz I KNEW it'd fuck me over. Then I got into acid BIG time and decided everyone was mad but me, left that alone after a while and moved to the Hawkes bay where pot was rife but I decided wine was the go...back to Wellington, into the beer and stayed that way until I discovered the joys of speed up in Auckland in the mid 80's. Drink, snort, go crazy and generally have a good time then back-off again until P arrived. I had a bash on that for about a year, cost me heaps of cash and I went nowhere fast, I got aggro, punched some people that may or may not have deserved it but I'm not an aggro guy generally. I gave that away and got into E. Very cool, no aggro but harder on an old man's bod than can be endured on a regular basis, just like over indulgence on Jim Beam.

    The legal issues? Pot; if you get caught in public with a spliff, instant 100 bucks for being an idiot, who cares? Acid? Court, fine, scare them with some relevant info, it can't be good for you etc etc. Smack? A fine would be a waste of time, they just blew their cash on smack, educate them, try to save them, the stuff is shite, not good for you. Party pills are so full of BZP it's nuts, that stuff isn't good for you, go guzzle CD cleaner or something. The buzz lasts a couple of hours, the comedown lasts 48. Then we come to P.

    Anyone who uses that shit is (like I was) a loser. With my extensive drug-taking history I know what is good for entertainment, what is addictive and what is not. Fortunately I don't have an addictive makeup for the most part, I gave up smoking cigartettes overnight. I knew smack was a no-no, pot is just a laugh but I hate the smoke in my lungs; sure I can bake hash cookies etc but I still get paranoid and don't like trying to sort the CD collection when stoned. P is different.

    I have everything sorted when I'm on P, like my diet; I just don't eat. I know where eveything is and if it isn't there it's YOUR fucking fault. I don't have arguments, I just punch your lights out. I don't have a drinking problem coz I can drink shitloads and never crash my bike; I'm invincible. If you do get up after some fisticuffs I'll cut your fucking arm off with a carving knife, and the pizza deliery guy's to boot. I'll be too busy to go to work, I'll forget my mortgage payments coz I've got some points to score/make. Yup, that's P, the shit that's truly fucking NZ. Forget your pot, your E and your acid (although you don't come up against too much acid or smack these days by comparison to the 70's) and get a grip on that P.

    I met a woman who simply said "I don't like the way you act on that stuff". It was that simple; I gave it up, not coz she told me to, coz she made me look at myself. I smashed my P-pipe and I can honestly say I've been clean for so long that I can't recall the last burn. However, I'll never forget the first, and that's the problem.

    Don't start and you won't have to stop.

    I'm not a copper, I'm a biker and I don't particularly like coppers but when it comes to P I have to say that the police have a hard road ahead of them. I have actually smoked pot in the presence of policemen but they know shit from chewed dates. Pot isn't really an issue. P is. Forget the pot thing; it's no big deal if you grow it yourself. It's only an issue if you buy from dubious sources who might lace it with other crap, such as P, to keep you coming back. Grow your own, quietly. Chill out and forget the politics.

    As for P? It's the nastiest, most insidious, addictive load of crap that has ever invaded our shores. Don't go there.

    This is not from the pulpit; it's from experience.

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    "You must spread some opinion around..."

    Well written, if it sways even one person away from 'P' that paost will really have avhieved something.

    BTW I heard 'P' taking compared to regularly running a red light:

    'Yeah I did it and got away with it'

    'Yeah, did it again today and scared a little old lady who had the right of way'

    'Yeah I did it again, got a bit of a start when I saw how close the camper-van coming from my left was'


    'Yeah I did it again and got a scare when I had to swerve around a mini-bus'



    'Yeah I did it again and now I'm dead 'cos the truck got me'.

    Anybody who's used 'P' want to comment on the simile?
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    [QUOTE but the question this thread asks is should cannabis be legal? or at least decriminalised. QUOTE]


    Oops, off on a tangent again. I think it should be decriminalized up to a certain amount for personal use. Stay on the case of the mass growers and peddlers coz you don't know what you're getting and they're pretty ruthless at times. However, Harold the Hippie sparking up a home grown joint to sit and watch the sun go down is a different matter. Busting his arse and locking him up doesn't do anyone any good, wastes time and resources and will probably give him a negative attitude toward those who bust him. It's the big buggers that need busting.

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    [QUOTE=peasea;1013028 I think it should be decriminalized up to a certain amount for personal use. Stay on the case of the mass growers and peddlers coz you don't know what you're getting and they're pretty ruthless at times. However, Harold the Hippie sparking up a home grown joint to sit and watch the sun go down is a different matter. Busting his arse and locking him up doesn't do anyone any good, wastes time and resources and will probably give him a negative attitude toward those who bust him. It's the big buggers that need busting.[/QUOTE]

    So, it is business as usual then, and this thread has been a waste of time? We don't care about Harold the Hippie... spark up and enjoy the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peasea View Post
    I have everything sorted when I'm on P, like my diet; I just don't eat. I know where eveything is and if it isn't there it's YOUR fucking fault. I don't have arguments, I just punch your lights out. I don't have a drinking problem coz I can drink shitloads and never crash my bike; I'm invincible. If you do get up after some fisticuffs I'll cut your fucking arm off with a carving knife, and the pizza deliery guy's to boot. I'll be too busy to go to work, I'll forget my mortgage payments coz I've got some points to score/make. Yup, that's P, the shit that's truly fucking NZ. Forget your pot, your E and your acid (although you don't come up against too much acid or smack these days by comparison to the 70's) and get a grip on that P.
    i've been around this seen for years now, i haven't seen this type of aggro.. had a few burns in my time to.. i just get bored on the shit.

    apart from the diet bit, that's exactly how i am on roids..

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    Quote Originally Posted by SixPackBack View Post
    Its still illegal, so no the thread has not been a waste of time.
    STILL aint worried about Harold the Hippie...

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    [QUOTE=Teflon;1013415]i've been around this seen for years now, i haven't seen this type of aggro.. QUOTE]


    Use it on a daily basis and hang around with others that do, then you'll see it eventually. Hang in there...and don't forget the medical fact that the damage to the bod is cumulative. Of course you could be shelling out for crap gear, that would really piss ME off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peasea View Post
    ...Of course you could be shelling out for crap gear, that would really piss ME off.

    First thing I thought of too.

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    [quote=peasea;1013494]
    Quote Originally Posted by Teflon View Post
    i've been around this seen for years now, i haven't seen this type of aggro.. QUOTE]


    Use it on a daily basis and hang around with others that do, then you'll see it eventually. Hang in there...and don't forget the medical fact that the damage to the bod is cumulative. Of course you could be shelling out for crap gear, that would really piss ME off.
    i do... i'm in the engineering trade, it's common to have a sessions in silos.. getting smashed in a confined space is something to experience.

    buy crack?? fuck that.. give me a good E any day

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    [QUOTE=Teflon;1013748]
    Quote Originally Posted by peasea View Post
    give me a good E any day
    You'll have to get in line for the freebies and when it comes to 'good' E's they seem to be in the minority. Weird how that stuff is illegal though; grog is a far bigger problem but then I suppose they can tax that.

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    [quote=peasea;1013794]
    Quote Originally Posted by Teflon View Post

    You'll have to get in line for the freebies and when it comes to 'good' E's they seem to be in the minority. Weird how that stuff is illegal though; grog is a far bigger problem but then I suppose they can tax that.
    line? what line.. there are some nice yellow hearts going around at the moment, very smacky.. i wonder where they came from..

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    my 10cents

    tried dope at ripe age of 27,resisted peer pressure when teenager,had beer that was enough.used off and on from 38-39when out with the boys,stopped when helping father with his horses.it's an offence to be under influence of drugs if you're a trainer,rider,attendent(strapper) covers most people in racing.strange only drugs mostly is reported for detection not alcohol.some track riders and jockeys have been caught at random raids at racecourses w hilst working horses,not at meetings.most get small fine or so.at a new plymouth meeting 3 yrs ago(or so)i was helping dad with couple of horses,after leading horse around and out of birdcage i was asked by a friend "hows the body",'fine' i said.i also said it'd be a laugh if i was drug tested,to which she said i bet.as i led the horse back to stabling area after race and had just hosed him downan officious looking man asked me to accompany him,i said no probs i'll just finish with my job,what's it about,he said drug test,i nearly pissed myself as thinking back this guy was behind me whilst i was talking to my friend.i then explained to him my wanting drug test was because i was undergoing chemo,and was talking jokingly. he didn't believe me so i showed him my chemo card which tells you or others what to do/phone if any problems.he stillwas dubious till i pulled up my shirt and showed him where the needle was still in my vein under a bandage,then he got pissed because i wasted his time,haven't touched it for about 5yrs,had enough bad drugs in form of chemo in my system so don't need any more.as an aside my wife was in funeral practice,as part of job she was able to do training with autopsies when required and said the difference between pot and no pot is evidence in the brain at death.
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