Maori harmed by immigration...

**Maha** · 17th April 2007, 13:21

Maori Harmed?....which one exactly?

**Beemer** · 17th April 2007, 13:30

Here is the link here: http://www.stuff.co.nz/4028365a8153.html

But what irks me is the fact that this is news because someone has decided it is harming Maori. There are plenty of unskilled non-Maori workers in NZ who could equally claim to be harmed.

And I agree with the poster who said why don't we stop allowing so many unskilled people in (although I think the article mentions on humanitarian grounds somewhere) and try and make NZ a better place for ALL of us, irrespective of the colour of our skin.

**jonbuoy** · 17th April 2007, 13:35

Originally Posted by Beemer

Here is the link here: http://www.stuff.co.nz/4028365a8153.html

But what irks me is the fact that this is news because someone has decided it is harming Maori. There are plenty of unskilled non-Maori workers in NZ who could equally claim to be harmed.

And I agree with the poster who said why don't we stop allowing so many unskilled people in (although I think the article mentions on humanitarian grounds somewhere) and try and make NZ a better place for ALL of us, irrespective of the colour of our skin.

I didn't think they did? Is there some loophole? My conspiracy theory is NZIS let in two types of worker - ones that genuinely fill a skilled shortage in NZ and ones to do the kind of work that no one else wants to do - low wages or just plain undesirable.

**FlangMasterJ** · 17th April 2007, 13:40

Stop letting unskilled people in and boot the unskilled people out.

**Motu** · 17th April 2007, 13:45

Originally Posted by jonbuoy

How the hell do non skilled people even get visas?

Because they are skilled,it's just when they get here their qualifications are not recognised....it would be good if they found that out before they got here.I've had so many overskilled people apply to me for jobs.I remember one guy who was applying to be a mechanic,asked what he did in his homeland - he said he was the manager of a steel mill.Well there is a steel mill across the harbour,have you applied there? In his country there is a steel mill in every city,and there are hundredes of cities.Doctors pedaling insurance,lawyers pumping gas....talk to some of these immigrants,they are real people you know.

**Marmoot** · 17th April 2007, 13:52

Originally Posted by Disco Dan

Im guessing she is white? unless your a minority group you dont have a sh*t show....

Top 5 nationalities granted Work Visa/Permit 2006/2007 as 19 March 2007:
China 18,143 (12.5%)
Great Britain 17,017 (11.7%)
United States 6,256 (4.3%)
India 6,244 (4.3%)
Japan 5,215 (3.6%)
(Total granted: 144,966 out of 164 nationalities)

Top 5 nationalities granted Residency 2006/2007 as 19 March 2007:
Great Britain 8,212 (26.4%)
China 3,328 (10.7%)
India 2,675 (8.6%)
South Africa 2,569 (8.3%)
Fiji 1,789 (5.7%)
(Total granted: 31,078 out of 156 nationalities)

I didn't realize British people are considered minority? (Unless they're all "British rejects" from middle east)

**inlinefour** · 17th April 2007, 13:55

Originally Posted by Finn

Maori don't like competition.

I allways thought it was the entry fee that they did not like...

**BarBender** · 17th April 2007, 13:58

Originally Posted by Beemer

But what irks me is the fact that this is news because someone has decided it is harming Maori. There are plenty of unskilled non-Maori workers in NZ who could equally claim to be harmed.

Agreed - students, solo parents, young people starting out, parents and grandparents of the previously mention etc... will all be affected.

The article has a - "fill that colomn space with a Maori piece to get the rabble going and back it up with academic comment for credibility" - feel about it".

Much ado about fark all for the brainfarked.

**Disco Dan** · 17th April 2007, 14:02

Originally Posted by Marmoot

Top 5 nationalities granted Work Visa/Permit 2006/2007 as 19 March 2007:
China 18,143 (12.5%)
Great Britain 17,017 (11.7%)
United States 6,256 (4.3%)
India 6,244 (4.3%)
Japan 5,215 (3.6%)
(Total granted: 144,966 out of 164 nationalities)

Top 5 nationalities granted Residency 2006/2007 as 19 March 2007:
Great Britain 8,212 (26.4%)
China 3,328 (10.7%)
India 2,675 (8.6%)
South Africa 2,569 (8.3%)
Fiji 1,789 (5.7%)
(Total granted: 31,078 out of 156 nationalities)

I didn't realize British people are considered minority? (Unless they're all "British rejects" from middle east)

Just because there is a 'treaty' does not mean we are not still taking over

**jonbuoy** · 17th April 2007, 14:02

Originally Posted by Motu

Because they are skilled,it's just when they get here their qualifications are not recognised....it would be good if they found that out before they got here.I've had so many overskilled people apply to me for jobs.I remember one guy who was applying to be a mechanic,asked what he did in his homeland - he said he was the manager of a steel mill.Well there is a steel mill across the harbour,have you applied there? In his country there is a steel mill in every city,and there are hundredes of cities.Doctors pedaling insurance,lawyers pumping gas....talk to some of these immigrants,they are real people you know.

I understand that I have no problem with immigrants I am one myself - Canada are having the same problems - encouraging immigrants into the country as they "meet requirements" knowing full well they don't have a shit show of finding a job in what they are qualified for as there is no such industry/employment in that field in the country - they end up driving Taxis and working in Burger King. I don't understand why they do that and then turn down people who are already semi settled and employed.

**Finn** · 17th April 2007, 14:21

What's funny about this thread is that it's normally "Immigrants harmed by Maori" so go the immigrants!!!

On a lighter note, we need immigrants. Kiwi's are generally very lazy and have a poor work ethic. The good ones have long gone and what's left at the bottom of the bucket is not worth much. A country is in a very bad state of affairs when it has such a huge welfare industry and no one to pick fruit.