Does this baby deserve parents like this?

[Finn]

Considering I come from a Jewish background I find that quite offensive.

I've got some Jewish blood too. Just enough to make wearing a helmet a difficult task. I cannot completely close my visor.

[jrandom]

I've got some Jewish blood too.

I keep 500ml in the freezer for special occasions.

[Beemer]

I've got some Jewish blood too. Just enough to make wearing a helmet a difficult task. I cannot completely close my visor.

Thankfully I escaped being saddled with that part of being Jewish! But my sister has HUGE ears - dunno where that comes from...

[Finn]

Thankfully I escaped being saddled with that part of being Jewish! But my sister has HUGE ears - dunno where that comes from...

Oh yeah I forgot, I'm not that Jewish.

[Hitcher]

But my sister has HUGE ears - dunno where that comes from...

Me neither, but I know why Elephants have got big ears...

[Beemer]

Me neither, but I know why Elephants have got big ears...

So they can hide at the prison (where said sister works) and not stick out, so to speak?

[Hitcher]

So they can hide at the prison (where said sister works) and not stick out, so to speak?

No, because Noddy won't pay the ransom.

[magicfairy]

I If they chose to take part in illegal activities and get caught, what sort of example does it give their children? I would feel the same way if she had been caught knocking over old ladies for their milk money, stealing goods from retail outlets or breaking into homes - all the types of things many petty criminals become involved with.

So ANY illegal activities render us unfit parents who should have our kids taken off them?
Would you have said the same about lesbian, homosexual parents - and yes they do exist - in the early 80s. Take their kids off them cos what they are doing is illegal - then. What about drink drivers, speedsters? More illegal activities that render them bad parents and they should lose their kids? When then anti-smacking laws come in - lock up the 40% of parents who said they will still smack and take thier kids off them too?
And all of those who don't regisiter to vote - that is against the law also.

So I'm curious - what is it?
Lock them all up or do you reserve right to cast judgement on what is a serious enough criminal offence to imprison people and take their kids off them.
I'm curious

[SixPackBack]

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[Beemer]

So ANY illegal activities render us unfit parents who should have our kids taken off them?
Would you have said the same about lesbian, homosexual parents - and yes they do exist - in the early 80s. Take their kids off them cos what they are doing is illegal - then. What about drink drivers, speedsters? More illegal activities that render them bad parents and they should lose their kids? When then anti-smacking laws come in - lock up the 40% of parents who said they will still smack and take thier kids off them too?
And all of those who don't regisiter to vote - that is against the law also.

So I'm curious - what is it?
Lock them all up or do you reserve right to cast judgement on what is a serious enough criminal offence to imprison people and take their kids off them.
I'm curious

Again, you are taking this to extremes here. I'm not even going to enter the debate about whether homosexuals or lesbians make good parents but I view that in the same way I view religious freedom - it should never have been a crime to be 'different'. If this makes me a hypocrite, so be it.

As for the others - well, that drunk guy who fell asleep while filling his car with gas recently has just been jailed for three years, so I guess he won't be exercising his right to be a parent any time soon. Not that he was exercising good parental judgement by driving with one of the highest levels of alcohol in his blood while his young (two or three years old) daughter was unrestrained in the back seat.

I'm talking about the acts and the people the vast majority of us would consider criminal - and although technically speeding (drink driving is quite another matter - if they drink and drive, they aren't showing responsible behaviour) is illegal, I doubt many of us would condone removing children from a home where someone likes to speed - unless they do it on a regular basis with the children in the car.

I'm getting sick of saying it, but I HATE ILLEGAL DRUGS. This woman was caught selling - and it appears also using - ILLEGAL DRUGS - and that is what my argument is about. Hell, I don't even like kids but I think every child deserves the right to grow up in a safe environment. Don't you?

[SixPackBack]

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[Beemer]

Cute baby huh......now imagine it scream as its torn away from mum.

Now you're talking!

[SixPackBack]

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[Beemer]

I've just been red repped and asked why, as a person with no kids, I am commenting in a thread like this. Well, for a start, I was the one who began the thread because I felt it would spark some debate. I was right - and most of it has been civil. But getting red-repped several times in the same thread by the same person for expressing my opinion is getting a little tiresome. Either express your opinions and let others agree or disagree as they see fit, or fuck off.

[Beemer]

My advice?.....seriously consider sterilisation.

I bet your mother wishes SHE had. Besides, I don’t need to be sterilised because I know how to prevent unwanted pregnancies, don’t have any peculiar religious hang ups about managing fertility issues and don’t plan to live off the State if anything unfortunate should happen.