Trial by trickery or how Scott was stitched up

[SPman]

Intersting that Rob Pope seems to be associated with the dubious convictions - Scott Watson, David Bain, could be others. Maybe he's a little keen to obtain the convictions that will propell him into upper management- only one step from the top job now.

David Bain as well!
He wasn't involved in the Peter Ellis case as well, was he?
Travesties of justice, all!

[Patrick]

Funny how book writers can clear crims of any crime....

[onearmedbandit]

Funny how book writers can clear crims of any crime....

Ummm, what would be the point of writing the book otherwise?

[candor]

An ex cop and Police prosecutor I once studied under told our class that some/most cases are predetermined by the Judge, prosecuting and defense attorneys who meet beforehand to decide on guilt and an appropriate sentence.

The rest is just courtroom drama.

He went on to add they all drink at the same pubs together and generally hang in the same circles.

Thats about the sum of it.

Re book - agreed, not everything a researcher might present s necessarily true or in ccontext / significant.

Dover. Twisted, no, I just have a special place in my heart for Heron. Actually celebrated the day he died, lol. As has been identified by others - apart from myself here I see, he was a law breaker and crooked scum.

I'm so glad to see that this has gone down in history, thanks to Scott Watsons supporters. He was indeed a spectacularly bad Judge and one very sad human being so that is exactly how he should be remembered.

PS - I dont call u twisted for cop bashing now do I. Not all bad people are convicted crims - the worst are those that play virtuous .

[candor]

David Bain as well!
He wasn't involved in the Peter Ellis case as well, was he?
Travesties of justice, all!

You forgot to mention Tamihere.

[ynot slow]

the best part of trial which i have doubts over the guilty verdict was the speed the cops said the ketch could travel,from one part of the sound to another, after dumping the bodies etc,the fact that people in the bar couldn't id the guy was suspect,agree the cops seem to need to find a perpertrator,and get the guilty verdict for their own kudos.

[terbang]

Besides which even if he wasnt guilty of those murders, he was still a shady piece of shit and he was guilty of SOMETHING :-P

Perhaps antisocial hippy bashing...!

[Patrick]

You forgot to mention Tamihere.

Wrong... said he would have coughed if the O/C Investigation was someone he liked.. he just didn't like John HUGHES coz HUGHES had him by the balls, ...again....

[laRIKin]

Well first I did not want to read this thread.

And when I did I was shocked by some of the comments.

I do not know or have ever spoken to Scott.
I know his brother and use to ride with him and his wife often and consider him a friend.
And have seen what this has done to their family.

Scott was no angle and is not as bad as some would like to paint him.
The Police, so wanted to get a conviction against him they they got blinded and let the real killer get away.

Even one of the parents now has doubts.

I have also worked with a guy that knows the water taxi driver and he says and keep on saying that it was not Scott.

I feel sorry for ALL THREE families, and all the hell they have all been though due this very sad time.

Here is their site (Watson's)
http://trudyandtom.tripod.com/homepage.htm

[Hitcher]

Scott was no angle

But he was acute guy...

[laRIKin]

The trouble with spell check is, you get the wrong word spelt correctly.

[Skyryder]

I've just got back from a North Island ride and was staying Kawerau looking up some of my old haunts. While I was was staying in the pub I got talking to and ex cop who grew up in my neighbourhood. One thing led to another and the Scot Watson case came up. Now get this. This ex cop told me that THE POLICE KNEW OF A SIGHTING OF THE MYSTERY KETCH IN OAMARU. IT WAS REPORTED IN THE PORT TWO DAYS AFTER NEW YEARS DAY.

Skyryder

[dangerous]

Scott Watsons brother is also a riding mate of mine, so I can relate to what Lemans is saying, I also have spent many a year in Picton.

Now I have no idea if scott did it or not, but what I do know is to what extent the cops set Scott up, its beyond me how some one can be put away when theres no bodys.
The boat in question mores 5mins away from where I am curently working, and I can say this... the water taxi guy said the two missing had to clim a ladder to get onto the boat... Scotts boat sits very low to the water line.

Scott was a right wanker in Picton stealing, making trouble ect... not to many people liked him, he was easy pray for the cops, and the cops involved back then were some of the shadiest pricks around.
Scotts brother and family are nice people and to see there determation to free Scott tells me something.

[spudchucka]

Ummm, what would be the point of writing the book otherwise?

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$!

[onearmedbandit]

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$!

No, there would be none of those if the book was about a convicted killer, who everyone knew was guilty, and the book detailed events of why he was guilty. No one, well not many, would buy that book. So your dollars argument falls flat. However, when there is a convicted killer who a good percentage of the population doubted his guilt, where the police case was thought to have had many holes, when there is a judge that many, both members of the public and fellow judges, whoever, consider to be dishonest, that's when you will sell many copies, and make dollars.