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    cenotaph??

    I dont know where the nearest RSA is.. and i would have no way of getting there
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    Nearest to you is prolly Takapuna, on the corner of Northcote and Tararotu (sp) roads, opposite the petrol station. Behind North Shore Hospital, that little road that goes down to the quarry lake.

    Cenotaph is in the Domain, that big obelisk in front of the museum.
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    aah... thank you... (sorry, I'm not really familiar with terms and where things are around here.. heh)
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    My thanks to those that have served, I will give them in person as usual at Dawn Parade.

    As I celebrate my freedom to ride later in the day you will be in my thoughts & at the going down of the sun I will remember you.
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    Strange but I often think of what these boys and men went through, compared to what our lives are like. To travel half way around the world, leaving family, loved ones behind, to live in atrocious conditions, and to fight, and possibly die in worse, I can not begin to comprehend what they experienced. To live in a country as I do now without the fear of dying in another land, to not have 'blackouts' to avoid bombings, to not hear the screams of those injured and dying around me, man I'm lucky and I got my forefathers to thank for that.

    Education is wasted on the young. When I was in school I was not remotely interested in this sort of topic, and too young to appreciate it (funny that, at only a little older these boys were off to fight). Now that I'm older I'm fascinated by it, and enjoy hearing first hand accounts of action. Not for the blood and gore, but to laugh at myself and my worries!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curious_AJ View Post
    aah... thank you... (sorry, I'm not really familiar with terms and where things are around here.. heh)
    We're going to the domain tomorrow, my lady just talked me into it. I've never been to a dawn parade, just as my forefathers never did (I guess they didn't see the need as they'd already done their bit), however, I'll get along and have a wee think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onearmedbandit View Post
    Strange but I often think of what these boys and men went through, compared to what our lives are like. To travel half way around the world, leaving family, loved ones behind, to live in atrocious conditions, and to fight, and possibly die in worse, I can not begin to comprehend what they experienced. To live in a country as I do now without the fear of dying in another land, to not have 'blackouts' to avoid bombings, to not hear the screams of those injured and dying around me, man I'm lucky and I got my forefathers to thank for that.

    Education is wasted on the young. When I was in school I was not remotely interested in this sort of topic, and too young to appreciate it (funny that, at only a little older these boys were off to fight). Now that I'm older I'm fascinated by it, and enjoy hearing first hand accounts of action. Not for the blood and gore, but to laugh at myself and my worries!
    PM me and I'd be happy to relay a tale or two told to me by my father, a signalman in the Royal Navy on HMS Kempenfelt. Interesting, scary and insightful. Might take a day or two mind.

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    My Dear Old Dad...

    Born 25 March 1925
    Joined the Navy 1942
    Escorted convoys across the North Atlantic until 1945 (on a Flower class Corvette)
    Occupation forces in Japan 1945 - 1947
    Korea 1952

    Suffered in a way that few of us could imagine

    And still found the capacity to love and be loved

    He doesn't tell war stories, will never join the RSA, and never, ever wants us to go to war again

    Dad, I'm proud to be your daughter. Rock on, old man
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    I know I remember them, and the same for fellow Brits on the 11/11

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    In Flanders fields the poppies blow
    Between the crosses, row on row,
    That mark our place; and in the sky
    The larks, still bravely singing, fly,
    Scarce heard amid the guns below.

    We are the Dead. Short days ago
    We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
    Loved, and were loved, and now we lie,
    In Flanders fields.

    Take up our quarrel with the foe:
    To you from failing hands we throw
    The torch; be yours to hold it high.
    If ye break faith with us who die
    We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
    In Flanders fields.





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    Being a trumpet/horn player I've been at dawn parades for a long time here and Australia, and it always shocked me to see these old men so serious and putting so much strength into this curious ritual. That's something that drove it home for me what my schoolteachers called the sacrifice they made; not only the ones who were killed, but the ones who survived sacrificed a fair bit of the quality of their lives, until they too die. Must be a hell of thing to remember and relive.

    So thanks to those who fought, no matter whose side or for what reasons they were led to fight, they were put through a hell of a lot for not very much and that should be applauded.

    Like OAB said too, people harp on about global warming and terrorism, but not very long ago there were other terrible things happening in the world. Today should serve as a reminder, not only to thank people and pay our respects, but to try and minimise having to carve more names into the stone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xerxesdaphat View Post
    So thanks to those who fought, no matter whose side or for what reasons they were led to fight...
    I find myself pondering this often when thinking of global conflicts, sitting in my Marketing class today with my study group. Kyoko from Japan, Dominic from Germany and myself, a kiwi [all of us had a grandfather in WW2]. Got to thinking that you know, 50-60 years ago it could have been us shooting at each other, clamering over death hellbent on each others destruction - and for what?

    It boggles my mind... and yet it continues to this very day
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    Glad to see this thread up.

    Just got back from dawn service at the Domain.

    My grandfather fought in North Africa and Italy with the New Zealand Division in WW2. I've always been grateful that he was willing to tell me his stories when I was a kid.

    We will remember them.
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    My uncle Gerry (from his Obituary).

    Gerry Gotlieb. born 1923. died 19 August 2006 aged 83.

    Furniture was his business but family and flying were the ebullient Gerry Gotlieb’s (936-38) passions. He joined the air force at 8 and flew Spitfires in the European theatre of World War II. He was smitten by the power and romance of flight but the need to make a living and family responsibilities kept him out of the sky from then till 1968, when he got his private pilot’s license through the Wellington Aero Club.


    Gerry’s father, Maurice, had a furniture manufacturing and retail business with shops in Wellington’s Willis St and Palmerston North and it was into this family business that he went on leaving Wellington College. Eventually, he branched out into a small furniture factory of his own in Kilbirnie.


    It was while delivering a lamp to customers Mr and Mrs Wolman that he met his future wife, their daughter Ruth. Their marriage flourished though early on, they had to cope with the challenge of having four children in five years. Later, he became a constant support to her in her years as a Wellington City Councillor.


    Whenever he could, he flew. In the 1970s he had a tiny Volkswagen-engine monoplane which he flew acrobatically and regularly about 500 hours a year. Little planes, he said, were much more fun than anything bigger. He crashed the monoplane about 30 years ago. He was not seriously injured and his love affair with flight endured. When he was 67 and chief instructor at the Upper Valley Gliding Club at Kaitoke, he won all the trophies at the National Gilding Club Class Championships held at Waipukurau, despite terrible weather that cut the 5-day contest to two.


    In 1996, at 73, he won the club class title at the Auckland gliding championships. He was the oldest competitor, or the oldest codger competing, as his admiring wife put it. Gliding, he had decided, was a bigger challenge than powered flight, keeping up in the air when, by all the laws of gravity, you should be on the ground. You’re pitting your knowledge of where the lift is coming from, and there’s the adrenaline when you’re stuck up in the mountains and looking for somewhere to land and there’s not a paddock in sight. It’s the peak of detachment — there’s nothing up there but the wind. He last went gliding just a few months before his death. If detachment in the air appealed, it was not something that characterised his life on terra firma. He was a member of numerous clubs relating to flying,including the Amateur Aircraft Constructors Association, the Wellington A Club and the Brevet Club. He was lover of jazz and an adept musician on the piano, trumpet and keyboard. Until shortly before his death, he continued to play the keyboard as an accompaniment to Laurie Penny’s singing in homes for the elderly around Wellington.


    He was interested enough in range of issues to write regularly, often tongue-in-cheek, to the editors of Wellington papers over the years, on everything from tooting in the Mt Victoria tunnel (he disapproved, and sparked voluminous correspondence from other letter writers) to the televised kiss of two women at a cricket match in Napier earlier this year (he couldn’t see why two women couldn’t kiss in public in a country that sanctions same-sex unions) to serious issues deeply important to him such as Israel and the Middle East.


    The good humour with which he characteristically approached all aspects of his life often came out in his correspondence. Writing of the success of an Anzac Day concert in the Wellington Town Hall, he enthused no one came away feeling they had been hit on the head with an 80kg speaker.

    He was, with his wife, active in Wellington’s Jewish community and a member of the Wellington Hebrew congregation.
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    "The inquisitive mind of a child" - Author Unknown

    Why are they selling poppies, Mummy?
    Selling poppies in town today.
    The poppies, child, are flowers of love.
    For the men who marched away.

    But why have they chosen a poppy, Mummy?
    Why not a beautiful rose?
    Because my child, men fought and died
    In the fields where the poppies grow.

    But why are the poppies so red, Mummy?
    Why are the poppies so red?
    Red is the colour of blood, my child.
    The blood that our soldiers shed.

    The heart of the poppy is black, Mummy.
    Why does it have to be black?
    Black, my child, is the symbol of grief.
    For the men who never came back.

    But why, Mummy are you crying so?
    Your tears are giving you pain.
    My tears are my fears for you my child.
    For the world is forgetting again.



    Lest we forget.

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