Smacking kids?

[peasea]

As a parent I think I'm qualified to comment. I've stated before on this site that I smacked my kid's bums when they were young; not a lot I might add, they're smart cookies and learned fast. It didn't take many smacks to get things straight and often when they were toddlers a sharp clap and a stern "no" did the trick. No need for physical contact at all. Just the THOUGHT of a smack was deterrent enough. Now they're teenagers and just the neatest of people but I firmly believe that those early smacks on the bum were critical.

The rest was hard work and consistency.

[Daffyd]

I brought up five kids, and smacked them when I deemed it necessary.
(Very seldom as it happens). Since they have grown up they have all said to me that those occasional smacks were all that were needed to straighten tham out.
They have told me, and I know, that they have the utmost respect for me.

[Skyryder]

As a parent I think I'm qualified to comment. I've stated before on this site that I smacked my kid's bums when they were young; not a lot I might

That right is/will not be removed from Bradford's bill.

Skyryder

I brought up five kids, and smacked them when I deemed it necessary.
(Very seldom as it happens). Since they have grown up they have all said to me that those occasional smacks were all that were needed to straighten tham out.
They have told me, and I know, that they have the utmost respect for me.

See my reply to Peasea

Skyryder

The big (and only) problem is that Bradford seeks to remove a part of law, without replacing it with something clearer/more workable.

Well there you go then. Give her something better.

Skyryder

[peasea]

Give her something better.

A high-speed lead implant perhaps?

[peasea]

I brought up five kids, and smacked them when I deemed it necessary.
(Very seldom as it happens). Since they have grown up they have all said to me that those occasional smacks were all that were needed to straighten tham out.
They have told me, and I know, that they have the utmost respect for me.

Bravo, I just hope your offspring won't have anyone (read government interventionists) interferring with the way they bring up your grandchildren; with their own upbringing to use as a sensible reference point I'm sure they can mete out the discipline all on their own.


Five??? That's brave, how did you ever afford a bike?

[Daffyd]

Bravo, I just hope your offspring won't have anyone (read government interventionists) interferring with the way they bring up your grandchildren; with their own upbringing to use as a sensible reference point I'm sure they can mete out the discipline all on their own.


Five??? That's brave, how did you ever afford a bike?

I waited until they all left home. Funny four of them-all boys-had bikes before me. Apart from a commuter back in the 80's.

[MSTRS:Me]

Well there you go then. Give her something better.

Skyryder

She has as much interest in anything but removal as I have in giving her one

[SPman]

.. There is a HUGE difference between smacking and beating....

Indeed there is and it's a shame a lot of people who should know better can't differentiate and step over the line.
A smack with the palm of an open hand is rather different to a fist, vigorously applied to the head or a belt, stick, or other implement that is often used.

[Squeak the Rat]

I would so love to interview Sue:

Q: Sue, why do you think people are against the bill?

S: People have been misinformed about the intention of the bill. It's not about criminalising parents, it's about stopping child abuse.

Q: Do you think that it's an emotional issue for a lot of people.

S: It probably is to some extent.

Q: So you expect average kiwi parents to be able to rationalise with their children, when you as the leader of a political party are finding it difficult to rationalise with the majority of this countries adults on this bill because they are not understanding your intent and are reacting on emotion?

S: Ummm, ahhhh, [wipes face with hand and hunches over] ummm ahhh

Q: Sue, you are a fucking dipshit. Goodnight.

[kro]

That Kro is the crux of the problem and becasue of it violence is continuing to be inflicted upon them.Skyryder

Dude, I understand your viewpoint, and appreciate your honesty, what I am trying to come back with , is the suggestion that the govt stop tip toeing around the deeper social issue.

[Grahameeboy]

Just lately I have come to the conclusion that a lot of people in this country are complainers and seem to agree with their right to drink and drive and kick shit out of kids......obviously reluctant to let go of the good ol' days.

Give the Bill a chance. It may work it may not but at least the Govt is trying.

I am sure the Police will exercise correct policing and if most people are against it then there will be no old biddy's to worry about dobbin parents in.

There is a problem with child abuse.......maybe it should not be called 'Anti-Smacking' and instead 'Child Protection' Law which I suspect would not have been less controversial.

Maybe this case will be different under the proposed Law..Mother was aquitted..........

Timaru mother two months ago, who was charged with hitting her 13-year-old son with a cane and horse riding whip, is proof enough an urgent law change is needed.

[The_Dover]

Just lately I have come to the conclusion that a lot of people in this country are complainers and seem to agree with their right to drink and drive and kick shit out of kids......obviously reluctant to let go of the good ol' days.

Give the Bill a chance. It may work it may not but at least the Govt is trying.

I am sure the Police will exercise correct policing and if most people are against it then there will be no old biddy's to worry about dobbin parents in.

There is a problem with child abuse.......maybe it should not be called 'Anti-Smacking' and instead 'Child Protection' Law which I suspect would not have been less controversial.

Maybe this case will be different under the proposed Law..Mother was aquitted..........

Timaru mother two months ago, who was charged with hitting her 13-year-old son with a cane and horse riding whip, is proof enough an urgent law change is needed.

Fuck you are an idiot gaymeboy.

Driving pissed and beating the shit out of your kids is ALREADY FUCKING ILLEGAL YOU RETARD.

Disciplining kids and having a drink or two with friends/dinner/alone and then driving home is not and neither should it be.

Do you want the fucking government to wipe your arse for you, incase you get shit on your hands??

[MSTRS:Me]

... but at least the Govt is trying.
....

They sure are, and so, my friend, are you in these 2 topical threads

[MisterD]

Q: Sue, you are a fucking dipshit. Goodnight.

In a nutshell, StR. What gets me is this idiotic mantra she spouts about "giving children the same rights as adults" WTF? Kids don't have rights, their parents have them on their behalf, that's why they're called "minors"....what's next, ask the kid, not the parent for consent for medical treatment?

[BigG]

The problem is we live in a very angry society and some parents smack there kids when angry, this is a big no no. I agree with smacking but the inforcer has to be a stable person. I brought up 5 kids and had to disaplin them but I would be incontrol of my emotions and make sure I wasnt smacking in anger. Now the kids are all growed up and thumpin the shit out of me! Na just kiddin they bring there kids up in a simmilar invireoment ( smack in Love)