Multiple intelligences

**MisterD** · 1st May 2007, 17:31

Originally Posted by Hitcher

What on earth is "inclusive education"? Sounds awfully like something invented by the PC Brigade...

Probably. Considered as the opposite of "exclusive" education, which is obviously the expensive stuff from the likes of Grammar

**Back Fire** · 1st May 2007, 17:41

very random... and a bit pointless

**scracha** · 1st May 2007, 18:29

Originally Posted by BuFfY

Yes, but I have a bit of intelligence...

Buffmammy, during the teacher training you're supposed to just nod your head and write heaps of $hite about modern teaching methods. You're not actually meant to believe all the PC shite the teach.

Is teacher training the same here BTW? In the UK I spent 4 out of 5 days in the classroom and 1 day getting "theory". Think it was 39 weeks in the classroom.

**jrandom** · 1st May 2007, 18:40

My personal view has always been that the intelligence and enthusiasm of the teacher accounts for any learning success beyond what's driven by the student's native ability and their parents' encouragement.

I suspect that formal theories and methodologies, in the end, count for very little.

When the rubber meets the road and the young person in question has to write a report to a client's deadline, work out the geometry of a bracing framework before a wall collapses, or solve a differential equation describing an electronic circuit's behaviour while staring at a cloud of blue smoke, now that is the true test of their teacher's skill.

**BuFfY** · 1st May 2007, 18:41

Originally Posted by scracha

Buffmammy, during the teacher training you're supposed to just nod your head and write heaps of $hite about modern teaching methods. You're not actually meant to believe all the PC shite the teach.

Is teacher training the same here BTW? In the UK I spent 4 out of 5 days in the classroom and 1 day getting "theory". Think it was 39 weeks in the classroom.

We spend 3 years at university. In our first year we have two practicums (which are sections in different schools). The first is only two weeks long, designed to get rid of a lot of the retards. Second is a month long and requires one day of full control teaching.
Second year is two month long practicums, full control is upped each time.
Third year we have one big practicum, 7 weeks long, three weeks full control.
We also have 'micro-teaching' for various subjects and have to interview a group of students then go back at a later date and teach them.
The degree has changed slightly, so Disco might be able to explain this.
A few of my lecturers think that is should be a 4 year course so that they can cram more theory and policy into us, but I feel we need more hands on experience, and more support when we are actually in a school.
I am coming up to my big practicum, and am getting quite excited as I have just found out what school I am going to!

**BarBender** · 1st May 2007, 18:50

Thanks Buffy - that was useful.
Was nice to be reminded again that IQ isnt and shouldnt be the sole measure of intelligence.

**Flatcap** · 1st May 2007, 19:04

Originally Posted by BuFfY

We spend 3 years at university. In our first year we have two practicums (which are sections in different schools). The first is only two weeks long, designed to get rid of a lot of the retards. Second is a month long and requires one day of full control teaching.
Second year is two month long practicums, full control is upped each time.
Third year we have one big practicum, 7 weeks long, three weeks full control.
We also have 'micro-teaching' for various subjects and have to interview a group of students then go back at a later date and teach them.
The degree has changed slightly, so Disco might be able to explain this.
A few of my lecturers think that is should be a 4 year course so that they can cram more theory and policy into us, but I feel we need more hands on experience, and more support when we are actually in a school.
I am coming up to my big practicum, and am getting quite excited as I have just found out what school I am going to!

Sounds like a lot of effort to practice crowd control for a bunch of drugged up vandals, especially since you aren't allowed to strap them these days...

**BuFfY** · 1st May 2007, 19:13

Originally Posted by Fairlie

Sounds like a lot of effort to practice crowd control for a bunch of drugged up vandals, especially since you aren't allowed to strap them these days...

I would hope they weren't drugged up at age 7!! I am only doing primary school! High school would open a whole new can of worms!

**MisterD** · 1st May 2007, 19:16

Originally Posted by BuFfY

I would hope they weren't drugged up at age 7!!

Two words: Raspberry cordial

**Flatcap** · 1st May 2007, 19:25

Originally Posted by BuFfY

I would hope they weren't drugged up at age 7!! I am only doing primary school! High school would open a whole new can of worms!

You mean apart from Ritalin and Lithium...

**Colapop** · 1st May 2007, 19:33

I already know what I respond to....

**gijoe1313** · 1st May 2007, 20:11

Apparantly we have a shortage of targets to put up in front of the future crims in classrooms. That's why my parole officer allowed me to teach to shorten my stint even though I'm not allowed within 300 feet of kids...

And that's the line I give all my classes when I start each year! On ya Buffy for trying to give a little insight to people's way of thinking and learning, but it's lost on a KB crowd!

The theory is all good, but it's in the class that matters most - I've seen plenty of good educating theory fall flat on it's face and the common-sense (which is relatively uncommon) practice of everyday teachers be most effective (even if it is a swift cuff to the head! A no-no today!)

If we obeyed and took stock in all these tests, I think I would have been incarerated or tossed into a loony bin long ago.

Case in point : We ride bikes. We are obviously insane!