Fat people and airline seats

[MisterD]

Question: Are all fat pacific islanders fat because they chose to be fat or because they have genetic predisposition to be fat?

Lardy is a status symbol in the islands...but an ability to store huge amounts of fat and then eat very little for a long time would have been a distinct advantage on long canoe voyages.

Solution: starve the buggers thin or make them paddle instead of flying.

[mstriumph]

So what about people born with a disability who have no choice or someone who is disabled due to being hit by a careless driver...........saying 'After all, disabled people became disabled by lifestyle choice' is treading dodgy ground.

this isn't about any sort of debility that isn't caused by lifestyle choice

i suspect you know that

[Street Gerbil]

So what about people born with a disability who have no choice or someone who is disabled due to being hit by a careless driver...........saying 'After all, disabled people became disabled by lifestyle choice' is treading dodgy ground.

Dude, you ever heard the word "SARCASM"? You missed the whole point of me proving that treating people differently just because they are obese is just as wrong as treating people differently because they are disabled.

[mstriumph]

I wouldnt want my kids scared for life and traumatized if this lot waddled down the beach...

Enough to make a person anorexic.

that opinion is a product of your time and your culture ..................

you only have to look at paintings by some of the old masters ---- or, for that matter, 'girlie glamour' pics from the 1950s, to see how widely ideas of female pulchitrude differ within the space of a generation or two ............

and that's just in the 'free West' - when you think about what OTHER cultures consider beautiful [f'rinstance, some of the pacific islands] then it's obvious that one man's belle is another man's belly ........

[Disco Dan]

that opinion is a product of your time and your culture ..................

absolutly, couldnt agree more. Not disputing the fact my opinion is a construct of my cultural experiences and upbringing.

It is simply my opnion! Isnt that what KB is for?

[Flatcap]

one man's belle is another man's belly ........

Just as long as another man's belly isn't encroaching on my (limited) seating space when I am trying to eat my crap airline food

[Toaster]

Since we are sharing stories... I remember flying to Singapore years agao and seeing this asian dude spit a bit loogy into the isle.... I almost puked into my dried roll and weak tea! AND he used his cellphone a few times.... I almost found a new rectal carry case for it.

[Toaster]

... and as for space-challenged flyers... if they take up the space of two people then fair enough... make em pay..... but wouldn't they then deserve two meals... which only compunds their predicament????

[Swoop]

There is only one way to get fat. More calories in than out. Genetics has very little to do with obesity. Diet is everything.

Just like Billy Connelly says, "Want to lose weight? Eat less and move more!"

could be wrong ......

Yup.

I've learnt a valuable lesson today. Don't argue with some one who believes they have god on their side.

You are meaning "Who has the best imaginary friend"...

Just as long as another man's belly isn't encroaching on my (limited) seating space when I am trying to eat my crap airline food

Good point! Book two seats = eat two meals!!!!!!

[Disco Dan]

... and as for space-challenged flyers... if they take up the space of two people then fair enough... make em pay..... but wouldn't they then deserve two meals... which only compunds their predicament????

hahahaha!!!!

Entitlement maybe. Derserve? pah!

[Skyryder]

Yes everything on a Wiki is true.

Did you read that article? People with this gene simply need to eat less calories, and more high quality nutrients. No drama. Its not rocket science.

The strength of the genetic influence depends on whether an individual has inherited one or two copies of the FTO gene variant.

A person with two copies of the FTO variant is likely on average to weigh 3 kilos (6.6 pounds) more than a person who does not have the FTO variant at all, and if they have only one copy they are likely on average to weigh 1.2 kilos (2.6 pounds) more.

From http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/heal...p?newsid=67666

Biffs right. They have found a genetic variant that influences weight.

Skyryder

[James Deuce]

The strength of the genetic influence depends on whether an individual has inherited one or two copies of the FTO gene variant.

A person with two copies of the FTO variant is likely on average to weigh 3 kilos (6.6 pounds) more than a person who does not have the FTO variant at all, and if they have only one copy they are likely on average to weigh 1.2 kilos (2.6 pounds) more.

From http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/heal...p?newsid=67666

Biffs right. They have found a genetic variant that influences weight.

Skyryder

Influences. It isn't a "YOU WILL BE FAT" gene. There is no such thing as a genetic given in regard to obesity. The figures you quoted are minuscule and the lower figure is actually with in the weight range that anyone can change their weight by in the space of 24 hours.

Their isn't any genetic excuse for obesity within the normal human weight spectrum, which is what we are discussing. Not minor variations in weigh given the absence or presence of a particular pair of genes.

Which is why I said read the article. It isn't talking about obesity. Obesity has life threatening implications. Being mildly overweight (in some gym bunny's mind) doesn't.

[Flatcap]

And in my experience it's not fat that's the problem it's wide or tall.

I can't sit in an economy seat next to another male of normal build without us clashing shoulders. Which to me says the seats are too narrow.

And tall people can't fit their legs and feet into the space available, so they have to splay their legs out , and then they clash knees with the dude next door.

Two large guys can only fit if they both sit at an angle

You are correct Ixion - anyone who is not completely average in all their measurements (like myself) should sort their shit out and get their love handles / guts / elbows / knees the hell out of my space, freaks

[Skyryder]

Influences. It isn't a "YOU WILL BE FAT" gene. There is no such thing as a genetic given in regard to obesity. The figures you quoted are minuscule and the lower figure is actually with in the weight range that anyone can change their weight by in the space of 24 hours.

Their isn't any genetic excuse for obesity within the normal human weight spectrum, which is what we are discussing. Not minor variations in weigh given the absence or presence of a particular pair of genes.

Which is why I said read the article. It isn't talking about obesity. Obesity has life threatening implications. Being mildly overweight (in some gym bunny's mind) doesn't.

I agree that obesity (fat) is what the duscussion is about but you claimed that
It's a myth that genetics set your weight in any way. That appears to the study that I posted is wrong.

I don't think I have stated that obesity is genetic related.

Skyryder

[James Deuce]

I agree that obesity (fat) is what the duscussion is about but you claimed that
It's a myth that genetics set your weight in any way. That appears to the study that I posted is wrong.

I don't think I have stated that obesity is genetic related.

Skyryder

Genetics don't set your weight though. Those genes give you the potential to carry that much extra. You can control that with diet and exercise.

You are trying to sell it as an absolute and it isn't. Even the article talks about influences and potential, not absolutes. It is a myth that genetics determine your weight. Diet is everything.