Lying pig, scumbag filth

[skelstar]

Someone on KB (and I can't remember who) had the pleasure of going to court and having someone from the PCA taking notes on their lying scumbag pig while he gave evidence. Case was thrown out, judge thought it was abysmal.

Firefly I think. Naki boy as I remember.

[vifferman]

An uncalibrated speedo does not give you an excuse for exceeding the speed limit.

I know; I've tried.

All it does is increase the court costs. I even went so far as to get a proper calibration test done on a dyno in Petone to prove that the Speedo on my 1989 Mitsi Galant VR4 read 105 when the car was doing 118.

Didn't help at all.

Hmmm... I can understand that.
The onus is on you to have a properly working speedo; it's not the cop's responsibility to make sure your speedo is OK. It's part of the WOF requirements, and your vehicle is supposed to be up to those standards whenever you're using it on the road.
Besides, if you could get off by proving your speedo was lying, then CleverBastids like me would just adjust their speedos before having them checked. Lesseee... my last ticket was for 23 km/h in a 50; that's 46% too high, so 5 clicks on the dial of my speedo corrector and voila! (a small musical instrument, misspelled) proof that it wasn't my fault! My speedo lied to me!!

[MWVT]

And what will be achieved. Can you put your hand on your heart and say you were not exceeding the speed limit? If not then nuff said.

Doesn't the cop have to prove speeding occured (i.e. guilt) rather than KBer proving it didn't (innocence).

After that speedo is tested.... "hand on heart i wasn't speeding officer/judge", may well be possible. Best case scenario here, the speedo is perfectly accurate.

[jahrasti]

. However, I ain't no spring chicken and I've noticed over the decades that attitudes have become focussed more on 'performance expectations' than community based, positive policing.

I can recall getting tickets with the word 'warning' written on them and I'd get off the gas and thank my lucky stars. These days you just get banged for the bucks and it makes people angry, especially for minor infringements.

So isn't this society/law makers which drive this change? Look at trades men, there are some good old school ones out there, and lots of dodgy younger ones that ruin the reputation of the whole industry.

[Grahameeboy]

Doesn't the cop have to prove speeding occured (i.e. guilt) rather than KBer proving it didn't (innocence).

After that speedo is tested.... "hand on heart i wasn't speeding officer/judge", may well be possible. Best case scenario here, the speedo is perfectly accurate.

I suspect it is the other way round.

Cop swears an oath as a Police Officer, so the Court will presumably accept what he says unless unequivacal evidence says otherwise.....the onus I guess is with the Defendant to show that they were not speeding....

[The Stranger:Me]

Don't get me wrong, I have sympathy and there should really be 2 cops when it comes to traffic offences.

In the UK there will always be 2 cops for speeding points. The problem here is that with just 1 cop on the case, there is the risk you have encountered.

So your odds are better against 2 liars?

[Grahameeboy]

So your odds are better against 2 liars?

Geeze...........ya canna win eh!!

Well who knows. With 2 cops there is always the chance that 1 will back down........or they may make the other cop think twice....if there is a ?mark then the "Good" cop may not want to look stupid.....well you get what I am saying.

Better than 1 I say.........

[Deviant Esq]

By the way.. Pigs means: Professional, Intelligent, Smart and Good Looking (P.I.G.S)

Actually, the way you've put it... P.I.S.G? Maybe the S doesn't belong there after all?

As you were.

[The Pastor]

If the cop/witness is proven to lie in court, on the smallest issue or point, anything he has said in court is deemed to be untrue.

But here is the kick in the pants. If you are deemed innocent, you still have to pay the court costs.

IMHO the cop should pay this as his fine for being a cunt, wasting my tax payers money, loss of income for going to court (takes like 3 or 4 court appearnces) and being an asshole.

[Jantar]

But here is the kick in the pants. If you are deemed innocent, you still have to pay the court costs.

Not so. Court costs are not imposed if you are found not guilty.

[The Pastor]

Not so. Court costs are not imposed if you are found not guilty.

Funny, I remember paying them.

[bell]

If the cop/witness is proven to lie in court, on the smallest issue or point, anything he has said in court is deemed to be untrue.

Perhaps "perjury" is the word you're after RM?

[The Pastor]

don't know, whats it mean?

[Skyryder]

I sympathize Peasea but there's a reality check here and unfortunatley it's not good. The chances of winning on your own are zilch. A solicititor may be of help but that's gonna cost on top of the fine. That's the reality painfull as it is.
However you do have some teeth. You say that the cop lied in the statement that you have recieved in the post. You can lay an offical complaint about these two issues. I would do this through a solicitor prior to going to trial. If you get get some confirmation that the cop has lied on this then you may have a chance of getting off. At best your complaint will go on his record. He may think twice about doing this sort of thing again..............who knows. Best of luck and have a good day on the day and put this down to one of lifes learning curves.

Skyryder

[MSTRS:Me]

don't know, whats it mean?

You're shitting us, right?
A lie is only a lie if proof is provided of the untruth....in court the lie is then known as perjury