Knee on ground on public road

**saul** · 22nd May 2007, 21:36

The North West 200 is a much better topic than knee down. lol sorry Tom

Here is BA bike from this years racing

looks like Steve Platter behind him

**mark247** · 22nd May 2007, 21:37

Originally Posted by kiwifruit

motorcycles should be banned

And cars, and planes and boats. People drown in boats and fall out of planes so they are just as bad. Walking should be banned also, i might stub my toe or something.

**saul** · 22nd May 2007, 21:46

There ya go the down load speed was good to

**scracha** · 22nd May 2007, 21:54

Originally Posted by Tom

cats eyes are not too bad just make sure u got good velcrow on ur knee slider otherwise you will be looking for it later i lost a few perfectly good knee sliders that way. and anyone can get there knee down dont tell urself u cant

Tom, you're my hero. Can you take a noob like me out for lessons as I've never got my knee down.

**smoky** · 22nd May 2007, 21:56

If I tried to get my knee down I'd fall off, too fat an old. besides my legs are too short and I doubt I'd get pants with knee sliders in the right place.
I think I’ll just stick to wank factor.

What’s all this bullshit about keeping to the speed limit, I don't believe you all for a minute, your just trying to avoid grief from certain KB posters - if you got the attitude to be getting your knee down then there's no way your gonna be sticking to speed limits - who you tryin to kid?

I speed - shouldn't, but do. I'll end up paying for it one day.
just like gettin ya knee down - one day you'll get it wrong and the'll most likely be a price to pay.

**MidnightMike** · 22nd May 2007, 22:03

Knee down?

My legs are so long i could get my knee down in a straight line.

**moT** · 22nd May 2007, 22:21

Originally Posted by smoky

If I tried to get my knee down I'd fall off, too fat an old. besides my legs are too short and I doubt I'd get pants with knee sliders in the right place.
I think I’ll just stick to wank factor.

What’s all this bullshit about keeping to the speed limit, I don't believe you all for a minute, your just trying to avoid grief from certain KB posters - if you got the attitude to be getting your knee down then there's no way your gonna be sticking to speed limits - who you tryin to kid?

I speed - shouldn't, but do. I'll end up paying for it one day.
just like gettin ya knee down - one day you'll get it wrong and the'll most likely be a price to pay.

on a sharp enough curve in a 100kph zone its easy to get knee down or around a roundabout on the way to work ofcourse u can speed and get it down then u can get done. i got my knee down infront of a cop didnt pull me over and i feel geting it touching gives better sence of road bike etc and its safer when i go around the track without geting it down it feels wierd

**moT** · 22nd May 2007, 22:24

Originally Posted by scracha

Tom, you're my hero. Can you take a noob like me out for lessons as I've never got my knee down.

yeah sure dude im getting a new bike soon id be happy to

**Reckless** · 22nd May 2007, 23:16

Tom Tom Tom,
Let an old fart with many years experience tell you a Secret.
Unless your leaned over and off the edge of the rear tyre and going like the clappers it looks a bit uncool sliding your arse off the seat and chucking your knee on the ground around the local roundabout down the road. You'd be the talk of the rest of the guys. If it flicks your switch keep doin it. But understand the reason why all the bikers are smiling when they meet you.

Let me set you a task. Go and take a pick of your rear tyre and post it. Then we will tell you if it qualifies as a knee slider machine. You can always tell alot by a riders rear tyre. And for fuck sake don't go out and tip it over for the sake of a pic.

It reminds me of a story. Was coming across the Waipuna bridge on the VTR into Pakuranga. Passed this guy on a new bike with new leathers etc. Just going normal pace, cutting through, tryin to get home. As i approached the next lights, turning left, I was in the right hand lane. He came up the inside of me, moved his butt way off to the left of the seat, stuck his knee down and when around the corner about 10k faster than me. Well fuck me i nearly laughed my head off. We where only doin 80k. We stopped at the next set of lights and he looked triumphantly over at me. I thought about taking off and lifting the front through a couple of gears so he could listen to the twin screeming its head off. BUT I just couldn't burst his bubble, so i followed him for a few meters and let the traffic get in the way. B4 I rode on. Ain't I just the most kindest guy.

**slowpoke** · 22nd May 2007, 23:25

Originally Posted by Tom

cats eyes are not too bad just make sure u got good velcrow on ur knee slider otherwise you will be looking for it later i lost a few perfectly good knee sliders that way.

So why did you hit the cats eyes? I seriously doubt you chose to hit them, therefore you must have slightly misjudged the corners, repeatedly....be interesting if you slightly misjudge it on the exit of a left hander, run wide, and you are already at max lean with your knee on the deck...

That's the problem with riding close to the limit: there's no margin for error

As someone once told me "You don't know what you don't know". You don't know if last weeks rain has created a pothole, you don't know what's fallen out the back of a ute, you don't know about the truck broken down that cars are passing on your side of the road etc ad nauseum.

Aaaah, who am I kidding, you are young and they've taught you everything you need to know at tech so why would you listen to old slow guys like me?

Just one bit of advice; when you are in front of the judge after killing a cyclist don't use the line "it feels weird to corner without my knee on the ground" it might not go down too well..........

**Reckless** · 22nd May 2007, 23:58

Originally Posted by slowpoke

So why did you hit the cats eyes? I seriously doubt you chose to hit them, therefore you must have slightly misjudged the corners, repeatedly....be interesting if you slightly misjudge it on the exit of a left hander, run wide, and you are already at max lean with your knee on the deck...

Just one bit of advice; when you are in front of the judge after killing a cyclist don't use the line "it feels weird to corner without my knee on the ground" it might not go down too well..........

ouch slowpoke! Its not hard to knock a knee slider of even at half the speed limit if you jamb your knee out.

Killing a cyclist..... thats a bit heavy I didn't read into his comments that he was boasting about going 160k in a fifty. He was just hanging off the side on the way to work. You can do that at walking pace. Might look a bit silly but Tom never said he was endangering anyone,

**Fat Tony** · 23rd May 2007, 00:08

I wank my knees at every oportunity on the road. Over here, if caught, it'll see you with a few more points to added to your licence for undue care and attention, or dangerous driving... some people have no sense of humour

**Puddlejumper** · 23rd May 2007, 00:23

I've had my knee on the ground a couple of times. Mind you, me and the bike were sliding across the road on it at the time. Personally I reckon its bloody sore. Still what ever gets you off.

**slowpoke** · 23rd May 2007, 01:19

Originally Posted by Reckless

ouch slowpoke! Its not hard to knock a knee slider of even at half the speed limit if you jamb your knee out.

Killing a cyclist..... thats a bit heavy I didn't read into his comments that he was boasting about going 160k in a fifty. He was just hanging off the side on the way to work. You can do that at walking pace. Might look a bit silly but Tom never said he was endangering anyone,

Yeah, lots melodrama, but that's what ya get for watching too much day time TV....

Nope, it's not hard to knock a kneeslider off....but he's hitting cats eyes and I'm pretty sure he didn't intend to hit them...and he admits to having (unintentionally) hit them a few times. This indicates to me that he's misjudged his line...what happens if rather than coming in too tight he runs wide?

I know, you can get your knee down in a carpark, but he's talking about open road riding "on a sharp enough curve in a 100kph zone its easy to get knee down". Run wide and hit a cyclist at 100kph and there's a fair chance the cyclist isn't going to see another birthday. Yep, it's an extreme example but it's also something that could easily happen.

I'm definitely not in the "track god" category, but I don't mind takin' it to the track and I know that even hanging off as much as you like you still need a fair bit of lean on to plant a puck. The only way to maintain that lean is with a fair bit of speed and commitment to a particular line even when sub-100kph. In my opinion, and it's a pretty worthless opinion just ask my missus (if she wants my opinion she normally gives it to me...), that sort speed and commitment is inappropriate for road riding given the traffic and road conditions in NZ.