Another 10 cents per litre.

[xwhatsit]

Huh? That is the head-in-the-sand attitude that helped develop the problem with Auckland roads in the first place. Improve the roading and more people will drive = back to the same old problem.
The answer lies in an integrated public transport system that is convenient to use.
It'll never happen tho.

I wish I wish I wish there could be a decent public transport system, but it's unlikely. Light rail would be awesome.

However what you're advocating is a little odd; let the roads turn to shit so everybody will be forced to use public transport. That's mental. Current road system is too poor even if public transport use was double.

[Cr1MiNaL]

yea roger that mate... I used to drive a twin turbo gto prior to ma R6.... used to really hurt aye... not i dont give a sh*t either way.... even 2 bucks a litre is better with a bike than it is with my 400hp cage

[jafar]

You're not seeing the point, possibly because your bike has 1800cc. These are new, big, massive roading projects, that could be done with the existing taxation but it would take much longer; meanwhile the traffic is getting worse and worse. I'm glad they're actually doing something instead of procrastinating (which is what they've done in Auckland for years). This 10c per litre helps to get there a lot faster. I thought the tolls had been done and dusted?

Consolidated fund, blah blah blah. Again, pointless. So the money from the road tax gets spent on, e.g., education. Well that's good, because that way the money from education won't be spent on the health system. Don't you see the point? Simple finances; net money comes in, net money goes out. Who cares where it comes from, it's all consolidated in its own way and all gets spent where it needs to be spent.

Oh my gawd, you actually BELIEVE the garbage they are peddling to us We as a country have PAID for these projects already.
The fact that they have spent the money in other sectors doesn't alter that fact. We have been taxed for these "projects" & now are going to be taxed again & to top it off the new roads will be tolled as well This is a classic case of double dipping.

[MSTRS:Me]

I wish I wish I wish there could be a decent public transport system, but it's unlikely. Light rail would be awesome.

However what you're advocating is a little odd; let the roads turn to shit so everybody will be forced to use public transport. That's mental. Current road system is too poor even if public transport use was double.

Dunno how you arrive at that conclusion. Decent public transport would relieve the congestion, because people would chose to use it. Those people would also laugh at the 10c/l surcharge.

[Delerium]

You're not seeing the point, possibly because your bike has 1800cc. These are new, big, massive roading projects, that could be done with the existing taxation but it would take much longer; meanwhile the traffic is getting worse and worse. I'm glad they're actually doing something instead of procrastinating (which is what they've done in Auckland for years). This 10c per litre helps to get there a lot faster. I thought the tolls had been done and dusted?

Consolidated fund, blah blah blah. Again, pointless. So the money from the road tax gets spent on, e.g., education. Well that's good, because that way the money from education won't be spent on the health system. Don't you see the point? Simple finances; net money comes in, net money goes out. Who cares where it comes from, it's all consolidated in its own way and all gets spent where it needs to be spent.

But the money paid over the last 30 years has ALREADY paid for these new projects but the cash was diverted elsewhere, and thats NOT GOOD ENOUGH!

[Delerium]

Best law labour have ever introduced.

I've long been a very staunch advocate of higher prices for Auckland.

Auckland needs more power, so they are railroading new pylons through the waikato despite massive opposition. As far as I'm concerned they should underground it the entire way, and just charge aucklanders more for their power.

Aucklanders need new public transport and more motorways? Guess what it should all come from auckland only petrol taxes. You guys are bikers and only use a fraction of the petrol that cages do anyways, so uncle chopper definitly says harden the fuck up.

It's not just an anti auckland thing thou, I also think that farmers should be forced to pay the full cost for delivery of power and phone to rural locations, rather than urban dwellers subsidising them as it currently is.

Ok, then give us back all the money that we have paid to subsidise your roading over the last 30 years... oh wait, if that hadnt gone elsewhere there would still be dirt roads through the middle of town (slight exaggeration)

This is typical, just tax the problem away rather than having a viable alternative. the public transport in auckland is abysmal.

[Hitcher]

But the money paid over the last 30 years has ALREADY paid for these new projects but the cash was diverted elsewhere, and thats NOT GOOD ENOUGH!

Get over it. New Zealand's infrastructure has been run into the ground over the past 30 years -- arguably because people haven't been paying enough tax or rates (not to mention a few corrupt or highly dodgy sales of state assets). If you want to live in a first-world country with the biggest, brightest and best, you will have to pay for it. Despite what many kiwis think, there is no such thing as a free lunch.

[oldrider]

I don't mind paying for the things that we as a country really need (including Auckland's roading problems) but I have been hearing the same old crap for so long and still seeing nothing done towards rectifying the problems.

Mayor after Mayor after Mayor, nothing actually changes.

Auckland has been saying the same things since I was based there in the early sixties! (Dovemyer Robinson I think was the Mayor then)

They should re write their slogan "City of Sails" to read "City of indecision" John.

[NighthawkNZ:Me]

I don't mind paying for the things that we as a country really need (including Auckland's roading problems) but I have been hearing the same old crap for so long and still seeing nothing done towards rectifying the problems.

I remember when I lived in Auckland it was the same and that was 20 years ago... and every one said well its only going to get worse... and what have they done since then... hmmm